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[Catholic Caucus] Cardinal Schönborn cites death penalty revision when asked about changing Catechism on LGBT issues
LifeSite News ^ | October 23, 2023 | Michael Haynes

Posted on 10/24/2023 9:01:24 AM PDT by ebb tide

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1 posted on 10/24/2023 9:01:24 AM PDT by ebb tide
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2 posted on 10/24/2023 9:04:46 AM PDT by ebb tide
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To: ebb tide

The change in the Catechism regarding the death penalty is considered heretical by many.


3 posted on 10/24/2023 9:22:43 AM PDT by I-ambush (From the brightest star comes the blackest hole. You had so much to offer, why didya offer your sou?)
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I believe that. Being against the death penalty is being for injustice.


4 posted on 10/25/2023 8:52:57 AM PDT by Varda
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To: ebb tide
Francis declared in 2018 that the death penalty is “inadmissible,”

His first act of incontrovertible HERESY.

Is it possible for a heretic to be Pope?

5 posted on 10/25/2023 8:55:42 AM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the peopIe to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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Is it possible for a heretic to be Pope?

Yes.

Therefore, the true opinion is the fifth, according to which the Pope who is manifestly a heretic ceases by himself to be Pope and head, in the same way as he ceases to be a Christian and a member of the body of the Church; and for this reason he can be judged and punished by the Church. This is the opinion of all the ancient Fathers, who teach that manifest heretics immediately lose all jurisdiction, and outstandingly that of St. Cyprian (lib. 4, epist. 2) who speaks as follows of Novatian, who was Pope [i.e. antipope] in the schism which occurred during the pontificate of St. Cornelius: “He would not be able to retain the episcopate [i.e. of Rome], and, if he was made bishop before, he separated himself from the body of those who were, like him, bishops, and from the unity of the Church.”

According to what St. Cyprian affirms in this passage, even had Novatian been the true and legitimate Pope, he would have automatically fallen from the pontificate, if he separated himself from the Church.
St. Robert Bellarmine, Doctor of the Church

6 posted on 10/25/2023 9:23:30 AM PDT by ebb tide
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To: ebb tide
From your quote:

the true opinion is the fifth, according to which the Pope who is manifestly a heretic ceases by himself to be Pope and head, in the same way as he ceases to be a Christian and a member of the body of the Church;

According to this, a Pope may become a heretic, but then would cease to be Pope.

7 posted on 10/25/2023 9:29:30 AM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the peopIe to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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