Methodist Pastor Attacks Pro-Life Americans, They’re Really Just “Pro-Birth”

Life News ^ | April 26, 2023 | Micaiah Bilger

[FamiliarFace]

I have a cousin who says this same thing. It’s aggravating to talk with her.

[rdl6989]

Well you didn’t miss it much. The logo is obviously based on the gay rainbow flag.

Rev. Debra is passionate about connecting with the people and helping them grow in their faith. An advocate for social justice, women’s rights, and the LGBTQ+ community, she seeks to heal the wounds created by conservative Christianity. Her vivacious, warm personality fuels her ability to influence people in positive and healthy ways.

https://www.theurbanabbey.org/meet-pastor

[rdl6989]

See post 22.

[Dr. Scarpetta]

All the Mainline churches were taken over by liberals at the highest levels.

[Boogieman]

“she seeks to heal the wounds created by conservative Christianity”

Hmm, did someone throw a Bible at her or something? Very strange.

[tnlibertarian]

Before I clicked I knew it was a woman.

[RatRipper]

you got that right. Visited a UMC when I moved to another town in the mid 1990’s. Even back then it was more like a country club than a church. Ended up at a PCA Presbyterian. Was pretty much at home there.

[Disambiguator]

Methodist = Apostate (at least in this case)

[chajin]

Rev. Debra McKnight

First error.

I would want to be clear that Christianity has a diversity of voices

Second error. Christianity has one voice, the voice of God, to whose will we are all to be subject.

pro-life advocates have “corrupted” Christians, especially evangelicals, into thinking abortions are wrong

Third error. Christianity has always said abortion was wrong; moreover, the Hippocratic Oath, which predates Christianity, says abortion is wrong.

[metmom]

I’ll take “pro-birth” over “pro-death” any day.

[unread]

"I would want to be clear that Christianity has a diversity of voices."

No it doesn't.. Christianity is about Jesus Christ of Nazareth, and he speaks with one voice. If you don't like his message, then maybe you should consider other options..

[SaveFerris]

Remember when Barack Obama said Planned Parenthood is doing “god’s work”?

The god of this world 🌍 - Satan

His real father (John 8:44)

This is more of the same.

[SaveFerris]

Wow 😳

[dirtymac]

This is why the Methodist church is no longer considered a Christian Church. Sme with the Episcopal Church.

[machman]

=====Rev. Debra is passionate about connecting with the people and helping them grow in their faith. An advocate for social justice, women’s rights, and the LGBTQ+ community, she seeks to heal the wounds created by conservative Christianity≠=======

Grow thie faith in what? If it feels good, do it? Yes, Jesus loved sinners, but there was that bit about go and sin no more these types of pastors always don’t want to talk about.

[Fledermaus]

Methodist are super liberal Catholics. Episcopalians are Uber liberal Methodist.

[EastTexasTraveler]

It is very sad that someone like this woman pretending to be a Christian will lead many astray.

[Tell It Right]

As someone who was kicked out of a UMC church over a decade ago, I can't say loud enough how proud I am of you, your local church, so many other Methodist churches, and even the one that had kicked me out. I married into that church and didn't have multiple generations of my family attending the church like many of my fellow Methodists did. I'm well aware of how to people trying to implement a necessary reform, it feels more like you're going against the grain if you're in a multi-generational church setting like that and have a lot to lose by making too many waves. I say that as a compliment to Methodists like you who bucked the trend, much like Wesley himself did when he was part of the Holiness Movement.

I was kicked out when I learned that part of our general fund went to abortion lobbyists since the 1970's. When I learned of it, the General Board of Church and Society (the political lobby arm of the UMC) was starting to push the gay thing too. At first I thought the gay thing was a distraction meant to undo the efforts of the North Alabama conference leaders at the Miami general meeting (the Alabamians were a loud voice to disband the GBCS and the UMC's and GBCS's abortion efforts). So I was focused on the abortion element. Over about 6 months I asked too many questions with my local pastor, the retired pastor, and the elders in my church (I was in my 40's) and they told me to quit volunteering, to just show up on Sunday morning, attend service, and leave. I was in no way disruptive to the services; my discussions were at appointment times with the pastor and with pulling elders to the side for private conversations when we'd gather to eat and such. Yet their devotion to Moloch was too much to let a pro-lifer like me every now and then ask why our offing plate money paid to lobby that even pro-lifers financially support their employees' abortions. People like me were no longer allowed to lead men's Sunday school classes and lead children's church and volunteer at most youth services, even though I never brought it up in those settings. I just kept pushing mainly faith in Jesus, being humble in believing we're saved by grace, reading the Bible on our own, and being grateful enough to live it like we mean it (mirroring John Wesley's holiness teachings). So I quit attending and found another church that realizes Christianity is a participation sport, not a spectator sport.

I went back to the Methodist building one Monday evening for a Boy Scout event and was yelled at by the pastor. I asked him to take our discussion to his office on the other side of the building away from the scouts. While he yelled at me I didn't yell back, just calmly asked him how I should have handled things differently after I learned our offering plate money funded hedonism. He never admitted I was right. But eventually he cried, and asked me why I didn't stay with the church when it needed reform. I calmly told him he removed whatever influence I had with teaching people to live holy lives, and he made it clear reform at the higher levels (where the money was managed) wasn't going anywhere. But I could tell even while he was mad that he was a good man in an ugly situation. I believe some hedonist devout Democrats in our church threatened to make up a stink to mess up the pension he was expecting in his soon retirement. I'm not saying he was in the right. Just saying I respect that even a righteous man can be tempted to join dark forces when others grip you by the financial gonads. While crying, ye yelled at me to "walk out that door and never come back". I left and didn't go back into those church buildings until years later after he left. And even since then I've been there only a few times for things like funerals. I didn't have to say anything about the funding going to abortion and the push for gay. Everybody at the funerals knew and I knew without us having to say it. And I was hugged warmly by all but the devout Dims. I was especially hugged by the "kids" I remember from the years of children's church and youth group who are now adults.

A few months ago my neighbor, who still goes to that church, told me I'd be proud of the young adults who were the main push to get that local church out of the hedonistic UMC and into the GMC. He's 100% right. I am very proud!

[No name given]

She’s a heretic!

[reg45]

There’s madness in his Methodism.