Posted on 02/12/2023 1:42:23 PM PST by ebb tide
Rome tried to mess with Jesus Christ and His followers, even slaughtering Christians in the Colosseum. How did that work for Rome? Rome fell and eventually the Roman Empire embraced Christianity and the Vatican stands in the heart of the old Roman Empire. What did the Romans speak......Latin. Who still speaks Latin...traditional Catholics in the Latin mass. The FBI should not target or go after the followers of Jesus Christ as history is a good example to learn from. Jesus said He would never leave His Church and that it will prevail over the gates of hell.
bring it on, you Statist scumbags!!
The coming revolution will eat up millions of American including many of its devotees. Arm up because they want to spill the blood of you and your loved ones.
2nd amendment ping.
But the reality is many traditionalists are the worst advertisements for their own beliefs.
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Many? How many is many? And how many do you personally know? And how many of those you do know are you referring to here? Should be easy to answer those questions!
Attacked from within. the smoke of satan is suffocating in Rome these days.
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Of course it is because the Chair of Peter is currently being soiled by Satan’s Pope who is the evil spawn of the Satan Council (Vatican, 1962-1965)! And actually the Vatican is no longer the headquarters of the Catholic Church but of the new Conciliar Church. The true Catholic Church has once again been driven underground into the Catacombs. There are, however, a growing number of Latin Mass Communities around the world such as the SSPX and the FSSP where Catholics may still attend Holy Mass and receive the seven Sacraments. Deus hoc Vult!
Have you ever been to St. Mary’s, Kansas?
So, your argument is traditionalists should pat themselves on the back and not try to improve, or live up to their standards?
They tried to inject ambiguity, but pretty much everything in Vatican II was closer to what was before than we have now.
” Because they’re so few of them and they’re so ineffectual and not influential. “
If this is true, why are Bergoglio and his minions so obsessed with stamping us out? Bergoglio et al. perceive the TLM subculture as the greatest obstacle standing in their way of implementing a new liberal version of Catholicism that surrenders to the world on issues like homosexuality. Is Bergoglio delusional and/or paranoid? Maybe just maybe he’s right... the TLM subculture is a bastion of orthodoxy that punches far above its weight among the hardcore faithful, young priests/seminarians and conservative Catholic intellectuals.
At this point, I’d say that it’s about 50-50 that here in the U.S., within 25 years or so, we end up with what they have in China, i.e., two Catholic churches: a Vatican-aligned “patriotic Church” that owns all the nice buildings and surrenders to the zeitgeist on abortion, LGBT, gender, etc. .... and an unpopular, persecuted underground or semi-underground Catholic Church that sticks to the traditional Catholic faith and liturgy
Have you ever been to St. Mary’s, Kansas?
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No, but I assume you have something to tell me about it, so what is it?
So, your argument is traditionalists should pat themselves on the back and not try to improve, or live up to their standards?
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Of course not! Whatever gave you that idea?
They tried to inject ambiguity, but pretty much everything in Vatican II was closer to what was before than we have now.
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So I’ve heard, and the intentional “ambiguity” had a specific purpose which was to firmly establish all of the changes that have distinguished the Conciliar Church from the one it replaced. Satan’s Pope however is hard at work finalizing the last of the changes, two major ones being the coming ordination of women and the blessing of homosexual marriages.
After consultation with the Dicastery for Divine Worship and the Discipline of
the Sacraments, starting on the Solemnity of the Resurrection of the Lord, (April 9,
2023) all the priests and bishops assigned or residing in the ecclesiastical jurisdiction of
the Archdiocese of Atlanta that want to celebrate publicly:
1. The Extraordinary Form of the Mass (except: Saint Francis de Sales and Saint Monica)
2. Novus Ordo ad orientem in Latin
3. Novus Ordo ad orientem in the vernacular
4. Novus Ordoversus populum in Latin
5. All sacraments and sacramentals in the form previous to the liturgical reform of the Second Vatican Council must request, by formal letter, permission from the Archbishop. The letter should include the rationale for such celebration.
A philosophy professor once asked his class, "Why was it wrong for Cain to kill Abel?" After a few minutes of semi-coherent talk among his students, he called a halt and gave them the answer: "Because it was."
Moral absolutes precede logic. They are postulates, not conclusions -- and abortion, which kills an unborn baby, is as absolute a wrong as any other kind of murder. Why? Because it is.
The FSSP and other Ecclesia Dei communities have to be feeling betrayed these days.
Thank you, or should I say, gratias tibi ?
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