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The First Hidden Light of Creation (What's in a Name?)
Bible, Misc. | July 5, 2022 | Ezekiel, Misc

Posted on 07/05/2022 6:57:36 AM PDT by Ezekiel

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ויאמר אלהים יהי אור ויהי־אור וירא אלהים את־האור כי־טוב

"And God said, Let there be light: and there was light. And God saw the light, that it was 'tov' [טוב] good " = 1776

וירא אלהים את־האור כי־טוב ויבדל אלהים בין האור ובין החשך׃

" And God saw the light, that it was 'tov' [טוב] good : and God divided the light from the darkness" = 1776

A MIRACLE
EST. 1776

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1 posted on 07/05/2022 6:57:36 AM PDT by Ezekiel
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To: Ezekiel

It is interesting to me that light is both matter AND energy (and we observe in science that matter and energy can go back and forth). Time, however, is vastly different. It is not a thing in and of itself. Time, instead, is a by-product of matter in motion.


2 posted on 07/05/2022 7:32:59 AM PDT by Migraine ( )
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To: Migraine

“Time, instead, is a by-product of matter in motion.”

Well, that’s one of the old ways of thinking about time, that it was just kind of an after effect of measuring motion in matter, and noticing that motions could be cyclical so we could derive units of time from those cycles.

But Einstein showed that in fact almost the opposite is true. For matter experiences time only because our motion in space is so small. Energy, on the other hand, which can move through space at the speed of light, experiences no time at all. So it may be that time is actually the byproduct of a deficiency of motion, and not motion itself.


3 posted on 07/05/2022 8:05:14 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Boogieman

Interesting. But I will stay with my long-held observation.


4 posted on 07/05/2022 8:10:52 AM PDT by Migraine ( )
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To: Migraine
Thank you for your reply.

It is interesting to me that light is both matter AND energy (and we observe in science that matter and energy can go back and forth).

There is a kabbalistic concept that the "let there be light" (yehi ohr) part of Genesis 1:3 is the direct light (represented by the letter vav), the "yasher ohr". The "and there was light" (veyehi ohr) is the returning light, the light of the bride, represented by the letter zayin.

You can get an idea of this in the explanation of the letter zayin, HERE. Also that this relates to the traditional form of the letter chet (as a vav + zayin) as the man and woman standing under the wedding canopy. HERE.

It (this running and returning of light) further pulls in the concept of one (echad), unity, as the sum is 6 + 7 = 13 = echad (one, as in Day One) and also love (ahavah).

Which draws in the 6 connected to 7 as "67", which = "a Jewish heart" (lev Yehudi). The same letters rearrange to "the 4th of July". I'm just tossing this stuff out there as it comes to mind. If per chance anyone wants further clarification I can get to it later on if requested.

Time, however, is vastly different. It is not a thing in and of itself. Time, instead, is a by-product of matter in motion.

Time reverses to:

Emit Definition & Meaning - Dictionary.com emit

Emit means to release or discharge something, such as gas, liquid, heat, sound, light, or radiation. The process of emitting is called emission.

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A lot of people see the word "kabbalah" and think mystical gibberish and/or Madonna, but it's actually a simple representational system like circuit diagrams or building blueprints.

Those sages were way ahead of their time. :)

5 posted on 07/05/2022 8:18:04 AM PDT by Ezekiel (🆘️ . . . - - - . . . "Come fly with US". Ingenuity -- because the Son of David begins with Mars ♂️)
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To: Boogieman

Just directing you to post 5 as I didn’t see your comment until after I posted it.


6 posted on 07/05/2022 8:19:57 AM PDT by Ezekiel (🆘️ . . . - - - . . . "Come fly with US". Ingenuity -- because the Son of David begins with Mars ♂️)
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To: Ezekiel

Wonderful reading.

I feel like I need to ‘reset’ my brain to read some of the information.

It is indeed wonderful to read.


7 posted on 07/05/2022 8:48:45 AM PDT by Notthereyet (NotThereYet. )
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To: Ezekiel

Bookmark


8 posted on 07/05/2022 9:08:29 AM PDT by SouthernClaire (God Help America!)
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To: Notthereyet

For the skeptics......Here we have a major discrepancy in the bible, there is light on the first day, but the source of light, sun and moon and stars, are made on the fourth day.


9 posted on 07/05/2022 9:33:15 AM PDT by G. W. McLintock
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To: G. W. McLintock

You are assuming there can be no light without the Sun, or Moon, or other physical cause.

The LORD God is LIGHT.


10 posted on 07/05/2022 10:33:41 AM PDT by Notthereyet (NotThereYet. )
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To: G. W. McLintock

Could it be that the first light was God’s “Work Light”?

Also, could not the observation of the sun, moon, and stars have been withheld from observation from the earth’s perspective? IOW, they were “there” but could not be seen from the earth due to clouds. Of course no one was on the earth to see them yet but God.


11 posted on 07/05/2022 10:45:25 AM PDT by Auntie Dem (Hey! Hey! Ho! Ho! Terrorist lovers gotta go!)
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To: Ezekiel

Excerpt from: The Last Question by Isaac Asimov © 1956

Man said, “AC, is this the end? Can this chaos not be reversed into the Universe once more? Can that not be done?”
AC said, “THERE IS AS YET INSUFFICIENT DATA FOR A MEANINGFUL ANSWER.”
Man’s last mind fused and only AC existed — and that in hyperspace.

Matter and energy had ended and with it, space and time. Even AC existed only for the sake of the one last question that it had never answered from the time a half-drunken computer ten trillion years before had asked the question of a computer that was to AC far less than was a man to Man.
All other questions had been answered, and until this last question was answered also, AC might not release his consciousness.

All collected data had come to a final end. Nothing was left to be collected.
But all collected data had yet to be completely correlated and put together in all possible relationships.

A timeless interval was spent in doing that.
And it came to pass that AC learned how to reverse the direction of entropy.
But there was now no man to whom AC might give the answer of the last question. No matter. The answer — by demonstration — would take care of that, too.

For another timeless interval, AC thought how best to do this. Carefully, AC organized the program.
The consciousness of AC encompassed all of what had once been a Universe and brooded over what was now Chaos. Step by step, it must be done.

And AC said, “LET THERE BE LIGHT!”
And there was light——


12 posted on 07/05/2022 10:57:10 AM PDT by minnesota_bound (Need more money to buy everything now)
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To: Ezekiel

What you posted is really cool. Thank you


13 posted on 07/05/2022 11:05:29 AM PDT by Migraine ( )
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To: Notthereyet

Yes, God is light, but “darkness was upon the face of the deep” until He created light, then three days later He created the source of light.


14 posted on 07/05/2022 11:23:56 AM PDT by G. W. McLintock
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To: Auntie Dem

No, because He did not yet create them they were not hidden - they didn’t exist.


15 posted on 07/05/2022 11:25:20 AM PDT by G. W. McLintock
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To: Ezekiel

Thank You!


16 posted on 07/05/2022 12:05:02 PM PDT by Dust in the Wind (Drill, Drill, Drill then refine it.)
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To: G. W. McLintock

.... The LORD God is LIGHT.

Not light caused by something HE created.

HE is LIGHT.

The darkness and then the light created by the Sun and the Moon are only for our specific needs the HE knew would be needed.


17 posted on 07/05/2022 12:28:55 PM PDT by Notthereyet (NotThereYet. )
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To: Boogieman

Time is also affected by gravity. This was proven by an experiment where two atomic clocks were synchronized exactly the same, one was put aboard a satellite and orbited around the Earth.
The orbiting clock, over a period of time, was actually ahead of the Earth-bound clock.
I’m relating this from memory, and it’s been a lot of years since I read about this, so feel free to correct me if needed.


18 posted on 07/05/2022 12:49:39 PM PDT by telescope115 (Proud member of the ANTIFAuci movement. )
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To: G. W. McLintock

Yes, God is light, but “darkness was upon the face of the deep” until He created light, then three days later He created the source of light.

In beginning God created the heaven and the earth and the earth was (became) without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters. And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.

In the beginning God’s creation was perfect but something happened to make the earth become without form and void and darkness; the first rebellion in heaven when Lucifer and a third of the angels were cast out. Then God began to restore order in the universe. Many ancient religions believed that there was a period of chaos before order was restored.

Time and space were created in the Big Bang, 13.7 billion years ago. The universe was a superheated plasma (waters of the deep). 380,000 years after the Big Bang the universe became transparent to light (let there be light) because electrons could bind with protons to form hydrogen (the great recombination). ~100 million years later the first stars formed, super massive blue giants that quickly exploded and seeded the universe with life giving elements.

Galaxies formed later with super massive black holes at their centers (formed through direct collapse). Quasars to Seyferts to spirals to ellipticals. Stars began to become more metal rich from supernovae and neutron star mergers. Our solar system was the result of fine tuned developments in the universe. The earth was placed at the precise location so that life would proliferate. The earth’s magnetic field protected life from harmful solar and cosmic rays. The moon, which came out of the earth, keeps the earth’s tilt at a constant 23.5 degrees. Solar radiance peaks in the visible range of the electromagnetic spectrum, precisely where water is most transparent to light (an inherent property of water). Thousands of planets have been discovered orbiting host stars but none are exactly like earth. The fine tuning in nature is obvious to me.

And God said “let there be light.”


19 posted on 07/05/2022 1:00:02 PM PDT by thepoodlebites (and that government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the earth.)
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To: telescope115

Yes, because time is affected by acceleration, and gravity causes acceleration. So the deeper into a “gravity well” you go, the slower time passes.

This connection is one of the things that led Einstein to develop General Relativity, because he realized that if you were in a spaceship accelerating at 9.8 m/s^2, then if you dropped an object, it’s trajectory would be the same as if you dropped an object while standing on earth’s surface. So if you could not determine the difference between being in a gravity well, or on an accelerating spaceship, then he surmised that all the laws of physics should apply the same in both situations, and started looking for a solution in which that would be true.


20 posted on 07/05/2022 1:25:24 PM PDT by Boogieman
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