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How should Christians respond to the Ravi Zacharias scandal?
The Christian Today ^ | 02/202021 | Dr. Michael Brown

Posted on 02/20/2021 2:20:30 PM PST by SeekAndFind

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To: Jim W N

Um, Jim, He was speaking to His disciples in Mathew 5.

I’ve noticed the tendency of some to use Saul/Pauls words as some sort of weapon against The King’s own Word.
It’s a natural reflex when one can’t come to grips with the reality that Grace isn’t license. And the New Covenant is not void of Commandments, on the contrary, it’s a higher and spiritual Covenant.

I am not trying to be Righteous by striving to keep His Commandments.
I am trying to Love Him, when He says, if You Love Me, Keep My Commandments

You and I see and hear the King differently. You and I see and hear Saul/Paul differently.
You and I see and hear the bible differently.

I can read every Word of His and apply it to my life.
I read every Word of Paul’s and see how it complements with the King’s Words.
I can read about the Old Covenant and see how that Natural Old Covenant meshes with the Spiritual New Covenant.

I didnt choose Passover as the start of the deliverance from Bondage, on the 14th Day of His 1st month.

I didn’t choose to feed Israel after 30 days.

I didn’t choose to tell Israel the Covenant Law,the Ten Commandments, after 60 days.

I didn’t choose to give Israel the Covenant Law, the Ten Commandments on two tables of stone,after 100 days.

I didn’t choose to use those numbers in a Parable about the Kingdom.

He did.

Jim, His Throne is Sapphire Blue Likeness (Exodus 24:10, Ezekiel 1:26)
You can refer to them as my beloved 10 Commandments, but they are His.
They were given to Israel on two tables of stone, on the same exact day He gave His followers the gift of the Holy Spirit.
On that day a reversal did occur.
The 3,000 that were slain on that day, over 100 days after Passover, became about 3,000 that were saved,in Acts 2.

And no longer are His Commandments are to be on stone tablets, but His Commandments are to be written on the stony hearts of His followers.
His New Covenant believers.

You and I see His Covenant differently,too.
Being delivered by His Blood comes with rights and responsibilities to me.
His Grace doesn’t equate my license.

His Disciples have the Law Giver and Life Giver and Forgiver all in One.
It’s all Him. He is the beginning and the End. The First and the Last.

The Old Law and Covenant was done away with.
But His Law and New Covenant is not Lawless.
On the contrary. It’s Lawful. But also Merciful and Gracious. A Law of Love.

If you Love Me...

And it’s Free.
For His Glory!
Take care in the wilderness, Jim.


121 posted on 02/25/2021 9:31:03 AM PST by delchiante
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To: delchiante

Um, delchiante, He was speaking to the multitudes (vs. 1) & the Pharisees in Mathew 5-7, but then the actual words of scripture don’t seem to matter to you because your kingdom theology seems to preside over scripture in your view.

Regarding your reference to the wilderness vs. the promised land, have you not read that the promised land is about entering into resting in his finished work and that rest consists of ceasing from your own works (like “trying to love God”) as God did from his (Heb. 4:10)?

If anyone is still striving in the wilderness maybe you should look in the mirror there delchiante

Bye and Rots a Ruck


122 posted on 02/25/2021 6:27:21 PM PST by Jim W N (MAGA by restoring the Gospel of the Grace of Christ (Jude 3) and our Free Constitutional Republic!)
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To: Jim W N

Jim, you got caught with Mathew 5.
Deal with it.

The Promised Land is eternal Life Jim.
That’s the Promised Land I am looking towards.

Spending Eternity with Him in His Kingdom

He absolutely does all the work.
And gets all the Glory!

A month from now, you can follow what Saul/Paul says and ‘keep the feast’..
And be sure to read his words about fornicators, covetous, idolaters, railers drunkards, extortioners in that same chapter.

Theres a hint of Commandments in Saul/Paul’s words in Corinthians Jim..

Maybe there are people who skip over parts of Paul’s Words too when they mess with their own definitions and religious beliefs. Or maybe someone will say that he was talking to Corinthians and it doesn’t apply to people today.

As for wilderness, Until He Comes, it’s a period of Peres,Jim.

It’s a breach in the Kingdom.

The Light, Zerah, only was here a short time and left.
A breach was then fully born (Peres-)
But The Light,Zerah, will return.

That’s what we can learn about the Old Testament.
The priesthood of Judah, would have three parts.
Zerah, Peres, Zerah
Light, Breach,Light
We are currently in the Peres period.
That’s the period since Christ, The Light, left the earth to go to Heaven.

We are enduring the 2,000 years represented by the Nadab and Abihu and Er and Onan. 2 sets of Sons of priesthood (old and new) that offered strange fire and/or wicked.

If you prefer the analogy of a restored garden, we can explain these last 2,000 years that way too.
But that won’t make these last 2,000 years anything but eating from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, the serpent’s tree, while the tree of life, is in Heaven.

Maybe some would prefer an Egyptian slavery analogy.
Where Satan still is enslaving people in bondage and we are at the process where Moses and Aaron’s rods, representing the shepherd staff and the priesthood staffs, have become serpents.

The about 2,000 cubits in Joshua, the 2,000 swine.

The bronze serpent in the wilderness

It all adds up to the corruption of His Kingdom on Earth, the church..
For the last 2,000 years.

Predicted in the Scriptures.
And until the Light returns, Satan is forcing people to eat his demon possessed swine and killing man, even Kingdom heirs, when the Promised Land for Kingdom heirs is eternal life.

Again, it’s clear to me that Paul has another Jesus and another gospel than Christianity today..
I don’t have any problem stating that because I have been led to see and follow that Lamb after being deceived by Satan.

Maybe heed Paul’s command, keep the Feast, then around 30 days later, read Exodus 16.
Then after 30 days more, read Exodus 19 and 20.
Then after 40 days more, read Exodus 32.

Then read Acts 2 and see the about 3,000 connection between the Old and the New.

And see how far off religion, especially Judeo Christianity, is from the scriptures.
Thanks to Satan, the Roman Beast and Antichrist Pope.
Satan has had a legal right in the church from the day Satan entered Judas.

I know Satan deceives the whole world. That’s wilderness enough for me..
But so is Christianity today.
So is religion today.

But I suspect our views would differ on Revelation also.


123 posted on 02/26/2021 6:42:48 AM PST by delchiante
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To: delchiante

As usual, your responses are non-sequiturs. Maybe you are a robot after all.

Anyway, please don’t call me, I’ll call you.

Bye delchiante.


124 posted on 02/26/2021 7:08:15 AM PST by Jim W N (MAGA by restoring the Gospel of the Grace of Christ (Jude 3) and our Free Constitutional Republic!)
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To: Jim W N

Remember Jim, the deeds and works of the ceremonial and ritual laws, like circumcision and animal sacrifices, can’t make one righteous before the Father.
The Perfect Sacrifice is the Lamb who takes away the sin of the world,is what makes one right.

Sin is lawlessness.
Sin is not righteousness.

The wages of sin is death.
Sin needs an atoning Sacrifice.

Thankfully the old system of animal sacrifice has been done away with.
Because the blood of bulls and goats wont take away sin.

It all was a system of substitution until the Perfect Sacrifice was prepared.

Jim,you probably believe this.
And yet, you confuse the moral covenant law with the ceremonial/ritual law, that were a shadow of His perfect offering.

So, when Passover comes, take heart that no one has to drag a innocent animal to the temple and slay it with their own hands to offer a blood sacrifice to cover the sin.

Maybe people would understand Paul better if there was a temple and people saw constant killling of animals because of sin.

Or if people walked around saying that I am right before God because I shed my own blood in circumcision.

As Paul says, circumcision is nothing. Uncircumcision is nothing.
But...
Keeping the Commandments is ______?
If your reply to that blank is also ‘nothing’,then you and I again, read Paul differently.
I input something/everything in that blank.

And everything I am learning confirms that .

Take care


125 posted on 02/28/2021 5:57:50 AM PST by delchiante
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