VP of German Bishops’ Conference: Christ ‘became a human being, not a man’

LifeSite News ^ | February 7, 2020 | Maike Hickson

[Salman]

Ecclesiastical promoters of degeneracy.

[Telepathic Intruder]

Yes I understand that Jesus is not your ordinary human. We are made of both flesh and spirit, constantly battling one another. Flesh is temporal, spirit is eternal. Is there another point?

[Romulus]

Let me try. Jesus is one Person. He is the Son of God, the eternal Word of the Father. Therefore this Person exists from all eternity. But Jesus is also man. Jesus is the Word made flesh, something that happened in time, at a definite moment. Before the Incarnation, the Word existed, but Jesus did not. So Jesus, while being one Person, has two natures: the divine one, which exists from all eternity, and the human one, which has its starting point at the Incarnation. To call Jesus a “human being” is to limit his being to the created world. But this is contrary to what the Incarnation is all about: the perfect union of the divine and human natures in one Person. Since that Person has no beginning, his being has no beginning. To call Jesus a “human being” would be to disregard the hypostatic union of divine and human natures in one Person who exists from all eternity.

[Telepathic Intruder]

Let me correct you on this.

"To call Jesus a “human being” is to limit his being to the created world."

No it is not. It is simply to define a single nature of him. It is not to define everything that he is.

To wit, if I say the sun is bright, it doesn't mean it is not also round, or a star, or composed of hydrogen and helium.

I personally lack the ability it explain everything in one short sentence.

[Kudsman]

I was taught he bacame the Son of Man. Works for me.

[caww]

also stated was......”The question of “gender,” Sattler explained, “has no relevance with regard to the theology of redemption.”

Sure it does...It was by one man sin entered the human race, and by one man redemption. Eve was deceived. Adam outright sinned against Gods words to Him.

“For if by ‘one man’s’ offence death reigned by one; much more they which receive abundance of grace and of the gift of righteousness shall reign in ‘life by one’,... Jesus Christ’.

Therefore as by ‘the offence of one’ judgment came upon all men to condemnation; even so by ‘the righteousness of one’ the free gift came upon all men unto justification of life.

For as by ‘one man’s disobedience’ many were made sinners, so by the ‘obedience of one’ shall many be made righteous.

[Romulus]

Gender isn’t sex.

Gender is a grammatical category, governing the behavior of nouns and pronouns.

Sex is a biological category. It applies to living things.

[Romulus]

Your argument would lead to the preposterous conclusion that Jesus has two beings.

[sitetest]

As if that had any meaning.