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Cardinal Tells Catholics Who Protest Pope to Become Protestants
Church Militant ^ | January 27, 2020 | Jules Gomes

Posted on 01/28/2020 9:44:11 AM PST by ebb tide

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To: rintintin
That’s like saying you didn’t buy an HP computer, you bought from an HP salesman.

What Tetzel did was not authorized by the pope and constituted the canonical crime of simony. But again, Luther went beyond just objecting to abuse; the Reformation was a wholesale rejection of Church teaching.

61 posted on 01/28/2020 12:09:52 PM PST by Petrosius
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To: EvilCapitalist
Those of us in the protestant church don’t want him either.

I mean no disrespect to Protestants, I just went with the example from the supposed Catholic Cardinal, had he said Baptist, or some other denomination I would have probably gone with it.

You are probably just as tired as I am of people demanding an established religion or organization change because they are unhappy with it. If you are unhappy then leave and find a happy place, that's the same guidance I used to give employees that didn't want to follow company rules. Except then I said toe the line or hit the road.

62 posted on 01/28/2020 12:32:49 PM PST by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: RatRipper

Right ... the concern is that Francis is acting like a Protestant ... engaging the spirit of the age without clear connection to Sacred Tradition. No wonder Vatican PR handlers are promoting that Francis “may” be doing a book on JP2—magisterial work that’s gone missing for years! Hope it’s true.


63 posted on 01/28/2020 12:34:44 PM PST by qwertyz
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To: ebb tide

Attitudes like that is why there ARE Protestants in the first place.


64 posted on 01/28/2020 12:34:54 PM PST by Buckeye McFrog (Patrick Henry would have been an anti-vaxxer)
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To: rintintin
I am not sure what’s wrong with this cardinal’s statement. The term, “Protestant” original meant “protestor” against the pope.

Here's what is wrong with it. The Catholics he is addressing are "protesting" the desertion of Catholic doctrine, dogma, tradition and even basic tenets of Natural Law by the hierarchy. The Pope himself is a guardian of these things. It binds him (that's what "tradition" means). The protestants of 500 years ago did not simply abandon the Pope, they made numerous changes to the theology and teachings. Even the "Old Catholics" of 140 years ago (after Vatican I) did not simply abandon the Pope, but made numerous doctrinal changes as well.
65 posted on 01/28/2020 12:35:24 PM PST by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics)
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To: kosciusko51

If he is being told by these lay Catholics either to do what Christ commands, or to refuse to do to cease doing what Christ prohibits, then he ought to do it for Christ, and not on account of the ones who pressed him to do his duty.


66 posted on 01/28/2020 12:55:05 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o ("Let us commend ourselves, and one another, and our whole life, unto Christ Our God.")
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To: Mrs. Don-o

The problem is that there is no higher earthly power to get him to do the right thing, and no apparent means to remove him.


67 posted on 01/28/2020 12:59:34 PM PST by kosciusko51
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To: qwertyz

Hey, I’m Protestant. He wouldn’t even be a good Protestant with some of the garbage he is pushing . . . not even at Reverend Leroy’s Church of What’s Happening Now (Flip Wilson)!!!!!


68 posted on 01/28/2020 1:16:31 PM PST by RatRipper
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To: ebb tide

“Criticism is fine, but this destructive criticism is not,” the prelate added, observing that “there are too many people speaking against the pope.”

oh some words are ok, but some are not because they are destructive..is it because you don’t agree with them..hmmmm

that is destructive to anyone who is free in Christ..

no priest needed for salvation..Jesus only


69 posted on 01/28/2020 1:30:45 PM PST by aces (and)
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To: Antoninus

brain washing... say after me...under the pope or not in God’s scope..again,,again...whos your daddy..hmmm..

I cannot go on...I will be sick...


70 posted on 01/28/2020 1:33:50 PM PST by aces (and)
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To: RegulatorCountry

yea so much for the absolute word of the pope...

it really becomes very tortured to believe and a healthy dose of brain washing, public censure, excommunicato, fears ..yea that’s the ticket....please...

sacraments don’t save us, a relationship with Jesus does, so I bet those words are harmful...why should the church point to itself first and not Christ.? Oh yea I know only the priest know Christ in succession from the disciples..wrong...God’s spirit pours onto all who seek Him through Christ..Church is good to attend, but man made himself too involved and too serious, giving power to fellow fools..please..


71 posted on 01/28/2020 1:41:43 PM PST by aces (and)
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To: ebb tide

Ok then,

So the church can support communism & gay clergy, protect and enable pederast priests, and claim the holy Koran is divinely inspired, but if we laity object, then we should leave the church?

I have news for this assclown in silly robes, the priesthood and ‘leadership’ left the church long before anyone protested. - because they covered it up for decades.

Sod off.


72 posted on 01/28/2020 1:42:19 PM PST by Triple (Socialism denies people the right to the fruits of their labor, and is as abhorrent as slavery)
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To: crz

Nothing of Man is holy, priest and popes are men, rule applies..let’s start there..


73 posted on 01/28/2020 1:43:56 PM PST by aces (and)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Don’t go foisting him off on us non-Catholics.

He’s one of yours until the Catholic religion officially ex-communicates him.

He’s not protesting Catholics, he’s the epitome of it, the full fruition of Vatican 2.


74 posted on 01/28/2020 3:24:40 PM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: metmom
I think he's foisting himself on you non-Catholics.

But I get your objection. I wouldn't take it, either.


75 posted on 01/28/2020 3:52:44 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o ("Let us commend ourselves, and one another, and our whole life, unto Christ Our God.")
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To: Mastador1

No worries. I know you didn’t mean any disrespect. It’s just that we have enough lefties in the protestant church. We definitely don’t need Poop Francis.


76 posted on 01/28/2020 3:53:16 PM PST by EvilCapitalist (If it takes a bloodbath, let's get it over with. No more appeasement. -Ronald Reagan)
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To: Bishop_Malachi

What do you do when you’re own Magestirium and Pope advocate theology that is “deeply at odds with the theology of the Church.”?
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Following the debacle of the Second Vatican Council my friends and I attached ourselves to the Tridentine Latin Mass community in our area, and we rejected the Novus Ordo forever. Of course not everyone has the good fortune to live within driving range of a church that celebrates the traditional Latin Mass. After retirement I moved to an area that is 75 miles from closest church that has one, so I rarely attend Mass anymore.


77 posted on 01/28/2020 4:10:57 PM PST by fortes fortuna juvat (To save America the Left MUST be aggressively attacked on every front.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

And were could I go to be just Catholic?
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To a Tridentine Latin Mass community, if one is close enough for you to get to on Sunday.


78 posted on 01/28/2020 4:17:19 PM PST by fortes fortuna juvat (To save America the Left MUST be aggressively attacked on every front.)
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To: bramps

Choices based on the word of God.
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Not exactly. Actually the choices are based on what is THOUGHT to be the word of God. Whether what is thought to be the word of God truly IS the word of God always has been, and presumably always will be, a subject of debate.


79 posted on 01/28/2020 4:24:29 PM PST by fortes fortuna juvat (To save America the Left MUST be aggressively attacked on every front.)
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To: fortes fortuna juvat

You have too much time on your hands.


80 posted on 01/28/2020 4:32:41 PM PST by bramps (It's the Islam, stupid!)
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