Posted on 06/18/2019 10:09:28 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
Only the destruction of an apostate denomination calling itself "Baptist."
In reality there is no such thing as "the" Baptist church. There are Baptist churches. Historically, Baptists have believed in the autonomy and independence of each individual local congregation. Denominationalism among Baptists is, over the long centuries, only a modern contrivance. Denominational structures are a contradiction to genuine Baptist distinctives.
Cut the denomination loose like a ripped sail.
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Presbyterians split into two:
Presbyterians of USA went liberal...
Presbyterians of America (PCA) stayed true, and split off (where we go to church).
One key word may be “Reformed”, which includes PCA. Reformed, as in Reformation, 500 years ago, when Luther and Calvin started what would be the Protestants break away from the Roman Catholic Church, over a 200 year period.
There are Reformed Baptists, and other Reformed denominations, all are suppose to be true to the original word of God.
1 - Almost no one in the SBC ever goes to these conventions. Typical attendance is 5-7,000 out of 15 million.
2 - The SBC “leadership” has no authority over any congregation.
3 - These resolutions are presented to working groups which (according to a friend who went to a convention) might have 200 people attending while the rest are at other meetings. Debate and discussion is either frowned on or squashed by the moderators, who are only interested in passing what they came up with months earlier.
The good news, to the extent there is any, is that Southern Baptist churches have ZERO interest in SBC Convention resolutions. In 45 years, I’ve never heard an SBC resolution mentioned inside a SBC church. The convention’s officers, president, resolutions - they all have close to ZERO to do with the SBC. It is worse than the Student Council in high school.
The Southern Baptist churches across America are mostly doing fine. The Convention leadership is worthless. Seminaries and missions. That is the only reason the convention exists. Anything beyond that and it is as worthless as teats on a boar hog.
I’d recommend our church leave the SBC, but then I’d have to explain what is going on. Because no one else in the congregation ever reads what the convention does. And then hear people say, “So what? Who cares what they do? What do they have to do with us?”
“Seems to me that all of these so-called Christian churches exist only to fleece their flocks. Reverends and pastors and priests are much more interested in big houses...”
Not even remotely true. Most baptist pastors have small congregations and many work second jobs to make ends meet.
The SBC is critical to continuing this country as we know it. Sinking in to the cesspool of political correctness will destroy them like it does everything else. And I am not a member of an SBC church.
Every one who was at the convention knew that.
Oddly enough, the “conservative” takeover in the 80s was exactly the opposite of what people thought. The Baptist church of the 60s and 70s was not infested with liberals. But the fundamentalist nutters with their 4000 year old earth and literal inerrancy masterfully called themselves “conservatives” during the Reagan era and were able to take over.
Both of the main leaders have been outed as perverts, one a homosexual who preyed on boys.
And their takeover of the Southern Baptist Convention (not faith) opened the floodgates for every social ill ever invented. The Southern Baptist church of the 60’s is only found today in independent churches.
“Several of these groups are out of the Virginia area,”
Coincidently, near the seat of government.
Very well stated. And as many Baptists smugly enjoyed seeing the SJW locusts attack the Catholic church, they forgot to notice the same forces were attacking them, and they were no better at fending them off.
” Denominationalism among Baptists is, over the long centuries, only a modern contrivance.”
Exactly. And the so called “conservative” movement in the SBC was actually a movement to centralize control, to increase structure, and to promulgate more rules and hierarchy.
It is the same everywhere in our society that everything must be organized and controlled.
Very few Baptists today truly understand that concept of one congregation...standing alone.
The only "tool" they should be using is the bible and the bible says there are no races in the Body of Christ.
That's what's called "rash judgment," which is making a broad defamatory generalization on little evidence, on no evidence, or against the evidence. Seems to me that's one way to violate the commandment, "Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor."
From your local Remedial Catechist
What part of “Sola Scriptura” do these people NOT understand?
Isn’t there some type of “franchise fee” that the various SBC churches send to the “mother church”?
So if headquarters and the chuckleheads that run the meetings (discussed here) are making funding decisions about schools, seminaries and missions - How is that not a problem?
It certainly is NOT a “franchise fee”! Each church decides if and how much to send to support missions and seminaries. And I doubt this nonsense has any practical impact - yet! - on either one. I don’t think the SBC President or anyone on his staff makes funding decisions on either one.
Can’t say for certain, having never researched it. The best answer to this nonsense will be to find better people to elect at the next convention. But since so few people even know when a convention is being held, it is an uphill struggle.
“And as many Baptists smugly enjoyed seeing the SJW locusts attack the Catholic church, they forgot to notice the same forces were attacking them, and they were no better at fending them off.”
True. I have no problem disagreeing with (politely, I hope) Catholics on issues like...oh...transubstantiation. But anyone who takes pleasure in sex scandals in ANY church is really missing the point. Yes, there are sex scandals that need to be dealt with. And there are honest victims whose pain needs to be addressed. But the activists doing the attacking are Christophobes intent on attacking anyone who honors Jesus.
understood. thanks. i was in a hurry and just wanted to communicate how widespread the infiltration/rot out from within problem is nowadays
in faith communities and in government,civil affairs too
i do understand that presbyterians and jews and some other faith communities are split, not entirely gone ape or communist or secular....... i get it.. that there are still some faithful traditional or orthodox groups, congregations, denominations ....
thanks for taking the time to clarify what I failed to do
understood.
thanks, i was in a hurry to just point out that the infiltration or rot-out-from-within problem
is widespread...
in SOME (yes, i understand not all, I stand corrected, thanks) Baptist and Presbyterian and Jewish and more and more denominations or faith communities
and I get it that there are still some faithFUL congregations, denominations, movements in same. thanks for clarifying what I was in too great a hurry to do
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