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More Roman Catholic Catechism Changes?
Pastoral Meanderings ^ | 08-10-2018 | Pastor Peters (LCMS)

Posted on 08/10/2018 3:09:22 PM PDT by NRx

A week or so ago the Vatican announced a change in the Catechism of the Catholic Church which changed the teaching regarding the capital punishment.  It was now deemed inadmissible -- whatever that means -- or no longer moral (though Scripture clearly allows this).  Now another change, perhaps more devious and clandestine than the announced change on the death penalty.  This represents the removal of one sentence and replacing it with something that is completely different, one that fails to acknowledge homosexuality to be objectively disordered and instead sympathetically suggests that homosexual tendency is not at all a choice but a condition natural to their birth.  Perhaps this is how Pope Francis plans to change the doctrine of the Roman Catholic Church, a few words at a time.  If that is the case, who knows where this will lead and who is checking the catechism on a daily basis to see what changes have crept in.

This is another version of change that comes not openly or by consideration but through the back door -- an attempt to re-define the faith without telling anyone about it.  Lutherans may only be interested in this for curiosity' sake but we would do well to remember the principle.  The most dangerous change comes through the back door and not through open consideration of that change and its debate on the basis of Scripture and the fathers.  

http://www.vatican.va/archive/ENG0015/__P85.HTM
2358 The number of men and women who have deep-seated homosexual tendencies is not negligible. This inclination, which is objectively disordered, constitutes for most of them a trial. They must be accepted with respect, compassion, and sensitivity. Every sign of unjust discrimination in their regard should be avoided. These persons are called to fulfill God’s will in their lives and, if they are Christians, to unite to the sacrifice of the Lord’s Cross the difficulties they may encounter from their condition.
http://www.vatican.va/archive/ENG0015/_P85.HTM
2358 The number of men and women who have deep-seated homosexual tendencies is not negligible. They do not choose their homosexual condition; for most of them it is a trial. They must be accepted with respect, compassion, and sensitivity. Every sign of unjust discrimination in their regard should be avoided. These persons are called to fulfill God’s will in their lives and, if they are Christians, to unite to the sacrifice of the Lord’s Cross the difficulties they may encounter from their condition.

It appears that They do not choose their homosexual condition was in the text until something about 2004 or so when the text was changed to This inclination, which is objectively disordered.  While it may, indeed, be true of at least some that they do not choose their homosexual condition, this is a point unrelated to the issue of objectively disordered.  Children are born with many conditions not of their choice but the result of a sinful world in which brokenness exists not only in material condition but in spiritual and in which desire is tainted by sin as much as act and choice.  Yet, the question remains why changes like this would not be transparent and why there would not be explanation for the change.  Coupled with Pope Francis' words that God made them gay, this represents a distinct softening of the previous stance and a shift away from the very idea that homosexuality is disordered.  If that is the case, then my premise still stands.  The most dangerous changes in the faith are the ones that enter through the back door without debate and not necessarily the ones on which discussion or even a vote is taken.  Too often, the discussion follows the acceptance of change and the vote merely affirms the change already embedded in the hearts and minds of the people.

 


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To: Al Hitan

You seem to have missed the part where I said I don’t care about anything you have to say.

I haven’t even read your last three posts because I don’t care.


142 posted on 08/17/2018 12:49:14 PM PDT by Luircin
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To: Al Hitan

Once again, Al.

Judging from all your past flamebait posts to me, there is not a single thing you can say that I have any interest in, so I am not going to read anything more from you.

I do not care about your trolling and Protestant-bashing. Go away and leave me alone.


144 posted on 08/17/2018 1:16:40 PM PDT by Luircin
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To: Al Hitan

I don’t care.

Leave me alone.


146 posted on 08/17/2018 1:54:50 PM PDT by Luircin
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To: Al Hitan; Luircin

The two of you have turned this thread into a personal flame war.

Do not post in the Religion Forum for a week.


148 posted on 08/18/2018 12:50:41 PM PDT by Religion Moderator
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To: Al Hitan; Luircin

It’s quite obvious that both of you did not do as I suggested 5 days ago.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/3678285/posts?page=118#118

If you get into another one of this type of banter on the RF you will be restricted from posting on the Religion Forum.


149 posted on 08/18/2018 2:35:58 PM PDT by Religion Moderator
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