Did Luther say, “Be a sinner and sin boldly”?

https://web.archive.org/web/20140528104851/http://tquid.sharpens.org/sin_boldly.htm ^ | 2005 | James Swan

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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/3669317/posts?page=189#189

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In presenting the picture of Martin Luther I want to be completely objective, and rely on the authority of some of the most reputable scholars available, many of whom are non-Catholics.

Objective? As if! Stop being so lazy, ET. How about we eat this elephant one bite at a time?

Here is an article that might get you started on that objective path - if that really is your intent: The Roman Catholic Perspective of Martin Luther (Part Two)

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James Swan is not a Catholic. He is not one to give a “Roman Catholic Perspective” on anything.

[Al Hitan]

And the more you try to float your deceptions the more exposed you are.

Talking to Martin Luther again, aren't ya?

[Luircin]

Except for the fact that he’s quoting Catholic scholars pretty much 100% in that link, silly.

Which you’d know if you’d read the article.

Psst, ebb. If you want to be ‘objective,’ you need to look at both pro and con positions for the argument, not just articles that agree with what you’ve already decided is true.

[Luircin]

Even more unoriginal than before. No U response. I’ve seen far better retorts.

.5 out of 10, especially considering that you’re more or less copying posts from upthread.

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Except for the fact that he’s quoting Catholic scholars pretty much 100% in that link,...

Another falsehood.

[Luircin]

Except for the fact that he’s quoting Catholic scholars pretty much 100% in that link,...

Another falsehood.

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Prove me wrong then.

Oh wait, you’d have to expose yourself to new viewpoints to do that, so you’ll refuse, claiming that you’re going to ‘pray a rosary’ or something like that instead.

[Al Hitan]

No U response.

.5 out of 10 on the English.

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Here's some info one one of Swan's "catholic" sources:

Fr. Yves Congar urinated on Wall of Holy Office

I would call Congar "objective".

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would = wouldn’t

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I don’t think they really want to objectively discuss anything. That happens when you grow up being told your religion is always right about everything and you mustn’t dare question them.

[Luircin]

Oh hey, Al doesn’t know internet lingo!

That’s sad.

[Luircin]

Here’s some info one one of Swan’s “catholic” sources:

Fr. Yves Congar urinated on Wall of Holy Office

I would call Congar “objective”.

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What, that’s it?

A rumor that a guy took a leak up against a wall. Right.

And an ad hominem logical fallacy on top of that too.

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No, that’s not “it”.

Swan deliberately searched out and selected only heterodox “catholics”. There’s nothing objective about his work.

[Luircin]

Nah, in part 1 of the article, he picked Catholics that hate Luther.

In part 2, he picked other Catholics.

Because to be objective, you have to look at BOTH sides of the argument, remember?

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Oh wait, you’d have to expose yourself to new viewpoints to do that, so you’ll refuse, claiming that you’re going to ‘pray a rosary’ or something like that instead.

What are babbling about now?

[Al Hitan]

Oh hey, Al doesn’t know internet lingo!

There you go making things up again and believing them. Just like Martin Luther.

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I don’t “expose myself” to anyone.

[rwa265]

Count me as a Catholic who did read the article, or some of it. It is too much detail for my wandering mind. Without getting too deep into what Luther said, my understanding is that he was not encouraging people to commit great sins; he was teaching that no matter how great one’s sins are, God’s grace is greater and He is always ready to forgive. There’s a song by David Kauffman that expresses this understanding, “You Cannot Go Below My Resting Arms.”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ec9hQrfAxV8

I do wish you would not use the term Romanist. It would be like calling a member of the Lutheran Church Missouri Synod a Missourianist.