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Socci on the new, non-Christian version of the (Catholic) Church
Fatima Perspectives ^ | June 23, 2017 | Christopher A. Ferrara

Posted on 06/23/2017 8:55:17 AM PDT by ebb tide

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To: Luircin
Are you saying that the Bible is NOT the Word of God?

Please answer the question i actually asked.

21 posted on 06/25/2017 10:55:56 AM PDT by papertyger (The semantics define how we think.)
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To: Luircin

why don’t you ask about the “doctrinaire” part instead of charging ahead with multiple accusations? Truly, y’all ARE the Christian version of islam .

BTW, don’t you people EVER get embarrassed by how often you reply with one variation or another of “I know you are, but what am I?”


22 posted on 06/25/2017 11:06:27 AM PDT by papertyger (The semantics define how we think.)
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To: papertyger

Thank you once again for so much evasion. I would think that you would know the answer to your question already.

Now answer in return, or be silent and confirm my suspicions.

IS the Bible the Word of God? If yes, then why are you believing that what contradicts it? If no, then why are you calling yourself Christian?


23 posted on 06/25/2017 3:01:44 PM PDT by Luircin
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To: Luircin

You ask a legitimate question, in my opinion, for all that’s worth.

The Catholic Church has come a long way. It’s response to the Reformation was to actually reform.

I think all Churches, everywhere, struggle with walking the line between ‘in the world’ and ‘of the world’.

Christ is supposed to find us where we are, unworthy as we are.

I grew up Catholic, but eventually became an Evangelical Christian. I’m attending a Baptist church right now, and the appeal is the application of the Bible to the ministry of their flock.

There are things I miss about the Catholic Church, probably things that keep some folks from being called to it - the fact that they acknowledge an Active Evil in a satan that they are scientific about in their approach to opposing it.

I miss the Rites, the veneration of the Sacraments.

I almost swam back across the Tiber during Benedict. Then came Francis, and what appeared to be a full embrace of the Catholic Church’s role of a new order in the world, couched in social justice, abandoning the principle of hate the sin, love the sinnner.

I miss it. The Pope, however, makes Catholicism so problematic, in that their influence is so outsized.

Every time I think of the Catholic Church, I think of the Mustard Seed parable, and fowls living in the branches of a plant that never really ever grows branches.

So much good there, and like all things built on sinners, so much imperfection.

Anyway, your original question, in my opinion, is inspired and justified. Christ wanted us to question our faith. Christianity withstands scrutiny. Church politics, however, almost never does.


24 posted on 06/25/2017 3:27:15 PM PDT by RinaseaofDs (Truth, in a time of universal deceit, is courage)
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To: Luircin
Thank you once again for so much evasion. I would think that you would know the answer to your question already.

Spare me your faux savvy. This is precisely the duplicity and hypocrisy I've been referring to with you people.

I posed you the question "Are you using "The Word of God" as a synonym for "The Bible" which YOU would not answer, responding with something to the effect of "are you saying the Bible ISN'T the word of God."

Instead you've spent several exchanges dancing around and accusing ME of "evasion."

I think it fairly apparent I do NOT support the assertion that whenever the phrase "word of God" shows up, the reader can substitute either "Jesus" or "the Bible," and I'm ready to argue the point. If you're anything like other Reformed, you DO believe either "Jesus" or "the Bible," depending on the context, MUST be used as the Bible is the totality of God's word excepting Jesus Christ, himself.

So are you ready to quit wasting my time and defend the point, or not?

25 posted on 06/25/2017 7:23:39 PM PDT by papertyger (The semantics define how we think.)
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If no, then why are you calling yourself Christian?

Because I'M not the one following doctrines nobody ever heard of for FIFTEEN HUNDRED YEARS!

26 posted on 06/25/2017 7:40:12 PM PDT by papertyger (The semantics define how we think.)
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