Posted on 04/29/2017 6:28:39 PM PDT by marshmallow
Do the Methodists actually call it consecration (not ordination)?
Yes, ma’am! Ryan Barnett, Rob Renfroe st all are standing firm in love and I couldn’t be prouder of them.
This was a fake ruling designed to allow the current situation to continue. The broader liberal strategy is to get conservatives to quit and to thereby change the slim voting majority that conservatives now hold.
This all designed so liberals will gain permanent control of properties, finances, pension and health funds, and institutions.
It’s all about control of money and power.
Follow the money.
I love my congregation, but the overall direction of the UMC since my childhood has me deeply distressed.
This is all meaningless word games. What the Methodist church allows is more a statement on their policy and theology that what they say.
Should anyone who professes to be a Christian and read Titus 2:3-5 and Romans 1:26-28 they would know what the Bible states about women’s roll in church or homosexuality.
I'm not sure I follow. Are you saying that if the consecration had taken place, the UMC would have suffered a mass exodus like the ECUSA, and therefore they punted?
I left knowing that five generations of family had been Methodist. It was almost like a divorce. Took me ten years of searching and church visiting before I could consider joining another denomination. I've been very happy with the theology of the LCMS.
I’m saying the ruling should have stripped her of her bishop status as a minimum. It is so obvious in our rules. However, they punted and referred it back to the region that elevated her in the first place.
Their intent is to demoralize conservatives causing them to quit prior to the 2019 vote that was supposed to be in 2018. It’s all about money and power.
Im looking into the LCMS. The only nearby congregation is so small, though....
Ours is small, too -- about 60 attend each Sunday out of around 200. I'm not thrilled with that aspect socially and made the mistake of falling in right away with two of the members of what I later realized was a female clique, and now have withdrawn myself from it gradually, sidestepping the inevitable gossip factory of a small congregation. But I stay for the Bible-based preaching and teaching of the Word and the wonderful hymnal, also quite scripturally sound and musically deep -- not like the pop praise songs the UMC started using before I left.
I've found a few true friends in the congregation over time, although I cannot count on a large supply of church members for intimate friendship. I'm supposed to be out spreading the gospel and bringing people to Christ, anyway! So I participate in several organizations that do good for those in need of the Lord. One of them is Community Bible Study.
Wow, the politics. It really stinks. Thanks for the explanation.
That's insane. smh
I loved it when it was the Methodist Episcopal Church; loved the liturgy and the cultre. Everything went downhill after the merger into UMC.
It was at that point that I saw the women essentially uniting to assert more and more of their determination to overwhelm the dominance of their husbands in their families, and over the local government of the goals of the churches.
Mark this well.
But that movement really took root during and just after the men went to war, when the women and elder men kept the churches going, and seminarians influenced by the "social gospel" began to prevail in directing the Conference Boards.
Smh? Is that an acronym I don’t know?
Shaking my head.
The strategy is to stall, prevaricate, LIE. The end game is to wait for the older conservatives to die off. In the meantime, pretend to be concerned and recommend that the codgers think about bequests for the UMC in their wills. The superintendents,clergy and bishops treat congregants the way the GOP estab treats ordinary Americans.
They were supposed to confront the issue in Portland in 16. Punted is a good word, but I prefer “stall” and stall till the old die. If you want to drive the superintendent crazy, start talking about how you’re withdrawing financial support and cutting the UMC out of the will. And look into the influence of Adam Hamilton, who just finished building a$100M palace in Kansas City.
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