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“Those who do not know the Lord’s caress do not know Christian doctrine”
La Stampa (Vatican Insider) ^ | December 6, 2016 | DOMENICO AGASSO JR

Posted on 12/06/2016 3:52:36 PM PST by ebb tide

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So, Judas, with his divided, “dissociated heart” is “the icon of the lost sheep,” whom the shepherd goes out in search of.

Here Francis once again contradicts the very words of Jesus Christ:

21 And whilst they were eating, he said: Amen I say to you, that one of you is about to betray me. 22 And they being very much troubled, began every one to say: Is it I, Lord? 23But he answering, said: He that dippeth his hand with me in the dish, he shall betray me. 24 The Son of man indeed goeth, as it is written of him: but woe to that man by whom the Son of man shall be betrayed: it were better for him, if that man had not been born. Matthew Chapter 26.

1 posted on 12/06/2016 3:52:36 PM PST by ebb tide
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More who can’t tell sheep from goats.


2 posted on 12/06/2016 3:54:59 PM PST by Olog-hai
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To: ebb tide

I think you misinterpreted Jesus words as words of vengeance which is not in Jesus...God is not about evil, but about love. I think the Pope nailed it very eloquently. And I am no fan.

Remember, Jesus Christ was born to bring each of us Salvation through his crucifixion. Judah did as he was destined to do. But, as you know...he suffered greatly and took his own life...probably wishing he was never born. I am sure Jesus mourned for his troubled soul.


3 posted on 12/06/2016 4:04:44 PM PST by Wpin ("I Have Sworn Upon the Altar of God eternal hostility against every form of tyranny...")
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35 Revenge is mine, and I will repay them in due time, that their foot may slide: the day of destruction is at hand, and the time makes haste to come. Deuteronomy Chapter 32.

Do you think God was kidding and that everyone is saved?

4 posted on 12/06/2016 4:11:35 PM PST by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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I think you misinterpreted Jesus words as words of vengeance which is not in Jesus...

I merely quoted Christ's own words in the Bible and you claim that's a misinterpretation on my part?

5 posted on 12/06/2016 4:16:58 PM PST by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: Wpin

Guess you missed all the other descriptions of Judas’ character. John 6:70 and 12:6 come to mind. Acts 1:16-25 has a lot to say as well, showing how the Apostles regarded him.


6 posted on 12/06/2016 4:17:21 PM PST by Olog-hai
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To: ebb tide

You did more than that...you put your interpretation into it.


7 posted on 12/06/2016 4:23:33 PM PST by Wpin ("I Have Sworn Upon the Altar of God eternal hostility against every form of tyranny...")
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To: Olog-hai

The Apostles are men...Jesus Christ is man/God


8 posted on 12/06/2016 4:24:25 PM PST by Wpin ("I Have Sworn Upon the Altar of God eternal hostility against every form of tyranny...")
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To: ebb tide

Jesus Christ brought the new covenant to the world. It is a covenant of Salvation...think about it.


9 posted on 12/06/2016 4:26:58 PM PST by Wpin ("I Have Sworn Upon the Altar of God eternal hostility against every form of tyranny...")
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To: Wpin

Where?

I quoted what Bergoglio said and I quoted what Jesus Christ said. It seems you are the one who’s trying to square the circle, as does Bergoglio with the Bible.


10 posted on 12/06/2016 4:29:20 PM PST by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: ebb tide

Kumbaya!


11 posted on 12/06/2016 4:32:59 PM PST by piusv (Pray for a return to the pre-Vatican II (Catholic) Faith)
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So you are accusing the Apostles of sin in that? If it were, then God would have rejected all of them as they were praying, and praying they were, asking God to choose a replacement for Judas.


12 posted on 12/06/2016 4:34:06 PM PST by Olog-hai
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Do you own a bible or have you even cracked one open?

[13] Enter ye in at the narrow gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way that leadeth to destruction, and many there are who go in thereat. [14] How narrow is the gate, and strait is the way that leadeth to life: and few there are that find it! [15] Beware of false prophets, who come to you in the clothing of sheep, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. Matthew Chapter 7.

13 posted on 12/06/2016 4:34:59 PM PST by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: ebb tide
“Those who refuse to be caressed by the Lord are lost! Those who do not know the Lord’s caress do not know Christian doctrine!” The Pope said this...

Since Francis now believes there are only nine commandments (and maybe one suggestion), perhaps he ought to listen to his own words about knowing Christian doctrine.

The Lord “is like a judge...He does not “condemn but saves...”

Francis does believe in hell, doesn't he?

That is the double life, the double life of many Christians, even with pain, we can say, of priests, bishops ... And Judas was a bishop, he was one of the first bishops, no? The lost sheep. Poor things!

Is Francis condescendingly aiming this at the four cardinals? Whoa.

14 posted on 12/06/2016 4:40:07 PM PST by BlessedBeGod (To restore all things in Christ. ~~~~ Appeasing evil is cowardice.)
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To: ebb tide

“The lord’s caress”?! Yikes!


15 posted on 12/06/2016 5:05:44 PM PST by kingpins10
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To: Olog-hai

I think you are a little confused about the Apostles...they were sinners...they were human. Their imperfection is important to understanding our own hope for Salvation.


16 posted on 12/06/2016 5:22:16 PM PST by Wpin ("I Have Sworn Upon the Altar of God eternal hostility against every form of tyranny...")
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To: Wpin

There you go accusing them of sinning in this prayer to God again. If they were sinning in this, God would have sent correction instead of an immediate answer.


17 posted on 12/06/2016 5:24:40 PM PST by Olog-hai
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To: ebb tide

And that relates to your misinterpretation of God’s “vengance” how? You do realize God was not referring to His vengance but His people’s vengance which He did not want to consume them...leads to satan. God does not revenge...He Judges.


18 posted on 12/06/2016 5:25:48 PM PST by Wpin ("I Have Sworn Upon the Altar of God eternal hostility against every form of tyranny...")
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To: Wpin

On the contrary, God sets Himself up as sole avenger and forbids it to His servants. Read Deuteronomy 32:35, Romans 12:19 and Hebrews 10:30.


19 posted on 12/06/2016 5:29:25 PM PST by Olog-hai
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You do realize God was not referring to His vengance...

What part of "Revenge is mine" do you not understand?

20 posted on 12/06/2016 5:57:37 PM PST by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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