Posted on 08/25/2016 6:45:18 PM PDT by marshmallow
You grossly exaggerate about the “huge body of doctrine” at issue in AL.
The matters at issue are nothing of the kind. Here is what the Catholic Church teaches:
1) Matrimony is indissoluble.
2) Divorce does not exist.
3) A person who, being married to someone, “divorces” that person and “marries” another, or begins, without “marriage,” to live in concubinage with another, commits adultery.
4) Adultery is grave matter.
5) No person may receive absolution or Communion without a firm intention to desist from the commission of grave sin.
That’s all all this fuss is about. AL is designed to cast doubt on ## 3, 4, and 5. Therefore, AL will eventually be repudiated by this or a future Pope, and will be rejected in the meantime by all who adhere to the Catholic Faith.
Nope not buying it. Too many accounts on these threads prove my statement correct. I’ve talked with former catholics who are now Christians who confirm this.
You mean that your fellow vicious anti-Catholics actually confirm you in your bigotry? Amazing!
That’s your problem. You believe the Protestant myth that the Pope has “absolute authority” in the Catholic Church.
The Pope has the authority to teach what the Catholic Church has always taught.
Catholic tradition and teaching on grave moral matters require no "interpretation", any more than the 10 Commandments require "interpretation". Doctrine, by definition must be clear and unambiguous. The Catechism and papal encyclicals are not written in symbolic, allegorical or metaphorical language, unlike much of Scripture, whose authentic interpretation is the province of the Church which gave it to us.
This is where Catholic tradition, much maligned and greatly misunderstood, comes to our aid.
Don't tell me . . . you mean Genesis 1-11, Daniel, Esther, and Jonah . . . right?
Ah yes . . . the "unchanging sure foundation of all civilization" at work!
Does he?
This is very much the question of the moment. We're in unchartered waters here.
These are grave and unprecedented moments for all of Christianity.
It’s so much easier just relying on the bible itself for these matters.
Pelosi and Biden are more than happy to tell us what Catholicism means.
Dude. Read. The former catholics confirmed they saw the annulments in catholicism.
Divorce does not exist??
You’re saying the man produced catechism is better than the Word itself,? Alrighty then.
The catechism and all papal encyclical are infallible and binding, then?
Here is Monsignor Fenton on the infallible safety of the Holy Catholic Church, 1949:
"It might be definitely understood, however, that the Catholic’s duty to accept the teachings conveyed in the encyclicals even when the Holy Father does not propose such teachings as a part of his infallible magisterium is not based merely upon the dicta of the theologians. The authority which imposes this obligation is that of the Roman Pontiff himself. To the Holy Father’s responsibility of caring for the sheep of Christ’s fold, there corresponds, on the part of the Church’s membership, the basic obligation of following his directions, in doctrinal as well as disciplinary matters. In this field, God has given the Holy Father a kind of infallibility distinct from the charism of doctrinal infallibility in the strict sense. He has so constructed and ordered the Church that those who follow the directives given to the entire kingdom of God on earth will never be brought into the position of ruining themselves spiritually through this obedience. Our Lord dwells within His Church in such a way that those who obey disciplinary and doctrinal directives of this society can never find themselves displeasing God through their adherence to the teachings and the commands given to the universal Church militant. Hence there can be no valid reason to discountenance even the non-infallible teaching authority of Christ’s vicar on earth. ... It is, of course, possible that the Church might come to modify its stand on some detail of teaching presented as non-infallible matter in a papal encyclical. The nature of the auctoritas providentiae doctrinalis within the Church is such, however, that this fallibility extends to questions of relatively minute detail or of particular application. The body of doctrine on the rights and duties of labor, on the Church and State, or on any other subject treated extensively in a series of papal letters directed to and normative for the entire Church militant could not be radically or completely erroneous. The infallible security Christ wills that His disciples should enjoy within His Church is utterly incompatible with such a possibility."
Unless, of course, the Vicar of Christ isn't truly the Vicar of Christ.
Correct.
All valid marriages exist until one of the parties to the marriage dies. Divorce is a fiction.
A Catholic is free—indeed, obliged—to reject teaching from any Pope that contradicts what has been taught from the beginning by all his predecessors.
You are telling me that I must accept your mythical Protestant version of Papal authority, by which Bergoglio can tell me on Monday that there are two Persons in the Trinity, four on Tuesday, and three on Wednesday, and I must believe him.
Your cartoon version of Catholicism is fit only for morons. No educated Catholic believes such nonsense.
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