Posted on 07/05/2016 1:04:18 AM PDT by OrthodoxIndianCatholic
I don't understand Mary and the Holy Rosary as I should.
I don't understand, love and revere her as I've come to believe that Jesus wants me to.
But, unlike the generic or average Protestant, I do accept the titles the Catholics and the Orthodox address her by and all that they attribute to her.
For some reason(s), I still have some inner resistance to and discomfort with the full acceptance the Catholics and Orthodox have.
Perhaps it comes from not having been raised in/with an understanding of Mary.
Or, perhaps it comes from Satan, himself, who both fears Mary and who does all he can with what he has to keep the Church divided and in conflict.
Thanks for your post.
As is the Protestant understanding of "being saved."
Isn't the real question here "what does that look like?"
In one sense yes. The faith that saves includes the life of Christ finding expression in the new believer's life.
Scripture also delineates the possibility of a believer living a carnal life for a time. That does not rule out eternal life for that believer, just rewards.
Now, perhaps you will get back to any of daniel1212's questions you've yet to answer.
The difference is that being saved from the wrath of God, having salvation now and in the future, etc. are all Biblical revelations from the Apostles. The rosary is made up from whole cloth.
Not the way Protestants practice it. Calling a practice by the same name as a Biblical concept is what cults are all about.
Furthermore, presuming something is not valid and authoritative simply because it is not cited in Scripture is similarly erroneous (i.e. Trinitarian theology)
Hardly an assumption. Mary has been venerated since the Apostolic age. When did your religion come about, Christian basher?
Actually, the rosary is made up from the common people entreating the Throne of Heaven for a simple, tangible devotion to that Throne.
That it took the form of a devotion to Mary seems to be a curiosity that will only be revealed with the beatific vision.
I've already demonstrated the circularity that underpins those questions, thus making answering them unnecessary.
One does not entertain the antagonist's question "how can you do math with letters?" AFTER introducing Algebra.
Thank you for providing the links. I was not familiar with the Seven Dolour Rosary.
I have found the guide at the following links to be helpful in praying the rosary. It provides ten reflections for each decade of the rosary.
http://www.rosary-center.org/howto.htm#loaded
http://www.rosary-center.org/joyful.htm
http://www.rosary-center.org/luminous.htm
http://www.rosary-center.org/sorrow.htm
http://www.rosary-center.org/glorious.htm
As far as those who disagree with praying the rosary, may the peace of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ be with you as you seek Him in your own way.
As is the Protestant understanding of "being saved." Well let's go with what The Word Jesus says then:
King James BibleIt's best to be careful about declaring something completely counter to God's word.
That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house.9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. 10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.-Romans 10:9.10
“As far as those who disagree with praying the rosary, may the peace of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ be with you as you seek Him in your own way.”
Just to make it clear, there is something implied in your sentence that doesn’t compute with Bible believing/following Christians.
The “seek Him in your own way’ is an oft used phrase to imply that OTCs ignore the Holy Spirit and just are left to our own devices to understand God and Biblical principles.
The irony is thick as the Rosary is an extra-Biblical phenomonea ceated by those seeking to please God “in their own way.”
Speaking for myself and all Christians that I know, we always seek the guidance of the Holy Spirit when pursuing spiritual knowledge using Biblical wisdom
"God's Word," and Protestant dogma concerning it, are not the same thing. Otherwise, there would be no end of prayer requests granted where two or three agree in Jesus' name.
Yet many of you come to diametrically opposite conclusions on what that guidance tells you.
Well I'm glad you have that sorted out.
The same thing applies to God's word and Catholicism. Big time.
I adhere to any denominational dogma, so your statement is wasted on me.
For you statement to have any validity, you will need to site instances with links.
Nope. Catholics are not bound to contriving "authoritative" Scriptural pronouncements in support of Sola Scriptura.
Furthermore, declining to use the word "dogma" doesn't make certain doctrines any less dogmatic.
There are no Scriptures that teach, record, demonstrate nor implore the veneration of Mary.
There are no sources before 100 ad that do this.
There are no secular sources that demonstrate it was done.
Accepting God's truth as revealed is in no way "bashing Christians."
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