Posted on 12/31/2015 4:29:48 PM PST by NYer
Scripture was written by all those... and others. Not a single one was Catholic. Not a single one. Catholicism didn't come on to the scene until ~300 AD. I can't help it if the Roman Catholic Cult's brainwashing is preventing the ability to see actual history for what it is. Centuries of mis-interpreting a verse doesn't make it so; Christ founded his church ON HIMSELF. It's called CHRISTianity, not CATHOLICianity. Like it or not, believe it or not, makes no difference -- facts are facts.
It's absolutely obvious to me that a Church that can't even agree with Scripture -- or worse yet, claim that Muslims and Catholics worship the same 'God' (which, by the logic of the CCC would be Allah) would push a lie the claims that Christ founded his church upon any one other than Christ himself.
My point is that Christ's Church consists of ALL those who are saved and have faith in Christ -- Roman Catholicism is not the "one true church" or the "one true faith." Yet, there may actually be Christians in the RCC; I hope so. But a Christian is a Christian, not a denominational name. And it's certainly not found in the Roman Catholic Cult.
Hoss
Roman Catholicism ought to look more to Scripture instead of made-up "traditions" and it would do far better.
Hoss
It'a unclear who Mathew is. So they were Catholics that were born Jewish and THEN became followers of Christ? OK.
There is no Biblical support of there being any Catholics around then.
A couple of centuries later (when Catholicism started) history was rewritten and popes were "created" to conform with modern day deception
Upset that the Catholic Church was founded by Jesus but that whatever Protestant sect you belong to was not?
Jesus did not found the Catholic Church, he founded His church.
The body of Christ.
You will find that most if not all non-Catholics posting here belong the that church.
There are only born again Christians in the body of Christ.
One reason why it is false that Catholicism encompasses the body of Christ because some members are not saved.
You defined a denomination as one that claims to have a distinctly different statement of faith and/or a special understanding of Scripture not shared by others. Assuming that you are being honest, then please show where just a small portion of the list you posted fits this definition by posting and referencing the source of their statements of faith so that we can see that it is obvious that their understanding of Scripture is different from the others.
I will make the assumption that if you can't prove that these are different, then the rest of your list that you copied and pasted is also in serious error.
(Please pardon the choice of the lack of formatting so as to save some people the scrolling and it isn't important to the challenge I have given you.)
Anglican Church (D Antigua) Anglican Church (D Cyprus & the Gulf) Anglican Church (D Egypt L & N) Anglican Church (D Egypt) Anglican Church (D Europe) Anglican Church (D Guyana) Anglican Church (D Jamaica) Anglican Church (D Kuching) Anglican Church (D Mauritius) Anglican Church (D Nassau & B) Anglican Church (D Papua & New Guinea) Anglican Church (D Polynesia) Anglican Church (D Singapore) Anglican Church (D Virgin Islands) Anglican Church (D Windward Is) Anglican Church (D Windward Isles) Anglican Church (J North & Central Europe) Anglican Church in America Anglican Church in Lesotho Anglican Church in Malawi Anglican Church in Southern Africa Anglican Church in Zambia: Anglican Church in Zimbabwe: Anglican Church of Aruba (D Antigua) Anglican Church of Australia Anglican Church of Bermuda (D Bermuda) Anglican Church of Cameroon Anglican Church of Canada Anglican Church of Ghana Anglican Church of India Anglican Church of Kenya Anglican Church of Malaysia Anglican Church of Nigeria Anglican Church of Papua New Guinea Anglican Church: D Antigua Anglican Church: D Barbados Anglican Church: D Belize Anglican Church: D Botswana Anglican Church: D Cyprus & the Gulf Anglican Church: D Damaraland/Namibia Anglican Church: D Gambia & Rio Pongas Anglican Church: D Guyana Anglican Church: D Jamaica Anglican Church: D Mauritius Anglican Church: D Nassau & the B Anglican Church: D Polynesia Anglican Church: D Seychelles Anglican Church: D Singapore Anglican Church: D Swaziland Anglican Church: D Trinidad & Tobago Anglican Church: D Windward Isles
I totally agree. And it is really quite silly and foolish. Yet, millions have it drilled into their head so that that can’t think for themselves.
Are you aware of the existence of the Eastern Churches?
Otherwise, they're looking at cult status too. Any "church" that adds to the requirements of salvation as set forth in Scripture by God Almighty preaches a false gospel.
Hoss
Catholics have been around since Jesus founded his Church because that is what the Catholic Church. But of course you discount the whole institution of the priesthood at the last supper and the Perrine ministry ordained by Jesus. Certainly there was no sola scriptura in AD30 as the New Testament was not even written nor was ut compiled until the same Church you call heretical compiled it.
Catholics have been around since Jesus founded his Church because that is what the Catholic Church is. But of course you discount the whole institution of the priesthood at the last supper and the Petrine ministry ordained by Jesus. Certainly there was no sola scriptura in AD30 as the New Testament was not even written nor was ut compiled until the same Church you call heretical compiled it.
And because you say that it is true?
If you are going to post to me a statement like that you will need to show from scripture that it is true.
It's been proved before that there were NO Catholics around back then except the universal catholic church which is the body of Christ.
Ever single member in Christ's body is a born again Christian follower of Jesus.
But of course you discount the whole institution of the priesthood at the last supper and the Perrine ministry...
Yes I do.
It was NEVER ordained by Jesus.
Biblical references please, prove it or it is not true.
In fact there were no popes for a couple of hundred years until Catholicism ex post factoed them in around the 3rd century.
I have NEVER mentioned sola scriptura nor do I use it as an argument.
It's as unnecessary for me to speak about as Calvinism et al. Those convos, and the accusatory tone when a you post stuff like that is inflammatory.
I won't take the bait.
Catholics have been around since Jesus founded his Church because that is what the Catholic Church isAnd because you say that it is true?
If you are going to post to me a statement like that you will need to show from scripture that it is true.
It's been proved before that there were NO Catholics around back then except the universal catholic church which is the body of Christ.
Ever single member in Christ's body is a born again Christian follower of Jesus.
But of course you discount the whole institution of the priesthood at the last supper and the Perrine ministry...
Yes I do.
It was NEVER ordained by Jesus.
Biblical references please, prove it or it is not true.
In fact there were no popes for a couple of hundred years until Catholicism ex post factoed them in around the 3rd century.
I have NEVER mentioned sola scriptura nor do I use it as an argument.
Mary is the mother of Jesus. We agree here.
But because She is the Mother of Jesus who is God the second person assuming humanity through Mary by the incarnation. She is also the Mother of God. Because even though she is the Mother of the humanity of Jesus. His nature is inseparable from His person. And his person is by incarnation God and Man.
Ah, not failing actually. Your claim is that Jesus two natures implies that His divine nature dies and reason it has to endure is because it is divine. But Jesus experienced death in his humanity, and thus because He is one person this is communicable in value in the person of Jesus.
If only a man died on the cross. A man has only the value of one man however good.
What happened is the reality that two natures are communicated. Since He is truly one person, what he experiences by his humanity is experienced in his person hood. If this communion does not exist, than God the second person does not assume the humanity of Christ. If God the second person of the trinity does not, neither is his death on the cross efficacious.
The reality is that there is a communication of the two natures to the one person. What was called a "hypostasis" by the Council of Calcadon in 451. It appears also in Heb 1:3.
It is because of the God-man value of the person of Christ that the cross is efficacious. If only a man died on the cross. A man has only the value of one man however good. Only because a communicable divinity and humanity existed in the one person of Jesus does the sacrifice have its value.
Divine nature does not die. However, the Divine nature is also said to be one nature of Jesus by the incarnation.
Consequently, this is the what the incarnation means. Jesus who is God assumed his Human nature by his incarnation and became Jesus both God and Man. His humanity is inseparable from his person because he has assumed it. His divinity is inseparable from his humanity because they are both existing in one person who has both natures.
But because the incarnation means that Mary is the Mother of Jesus the incarnated person, she is also the mother of God. Because the incarnated person is also God. This means it is precisely by the incarnation that Mary really is the Mother of God.
This assuming that YOU are reading Scripture aright. As for “faith alone,â€any traditional Christian accepts that only by putting one’s whole trust in the Lord can we hope to save our Souls. Except we need to put our trust in others as well, inside the community that Our Lord loved enough to die for.
Thank you for proving it Catholic means universal. I don’t need to poont to Scripture to prove something that’s the game you and your sola scriptura buddies play. I don’t subscribe to that none se as I have already told you. Try again.
Hey OY. Given all those requirements, it appears to me, it will be really tough for anyone to make it.
It seems to me that the single hardest thing to believe in all this is that Christianity is simply too good to be true.To which our fleshy mind says...'therefore it isn't'.
Hence John 6:29
I think if men were going to create a religion, Biblical Christianity would be the last thing anyone would ever dream up. Like you say, their fleshy minds would never conceive of something so simple.
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