"Oddsfish, Chuck! Let's just call it 'annulment' then..."
Posted on 09/08/2015 5:09:14 PM PDT by ebb tide
"Oddsfish, Chuck! Let's just call it 'annulment' then..."
St Thomas More, pray for us.
St John Fisher, pray for us.
Yeah, my wife just told me that she was waiting for these changes to kick my ass to the curb.
But, after considering it’s been 29 years, 2 kids, and four dogs...we probably don’t qualify.
Jury’s IN, My next spout of MISERY will be Catholic.
From Edward Pentin’s, “The Rigging of a Synod”:
On Friday, October 3, (2014) two days before the opening of the synod, this scholar received a call directly from Cardinal Erdö to come and meet him the next day. “I said: ‘Sure, when would you like me to come, maybe 4 or 5 P.M.’ ”, reported the scholar, thinking he would prefer to meet after a siesta after lunch. But the call was more urgent than that. Erdö wanted to see him at 1:30 P.M.
When he arrived at Cardinal Erdö’s office, the Hungarian cardinal was “ashen faced”. He had just come from Cardinal Baldisseri. Erdö had read to Baldisseri the Relatio that he had written, and the synod secretary general had picked it apart. “He’d just brow-beaten him into submission”, the scholar said.
Cardinal Erdö had, it seems, drafted the document with the opening line beginning with “Jesus Christ is our Master before all others and our only Lord”, and had stated, in an allusion to 2 Timothy, that the faithful owe obedience to Him whether it is convenient or not convenient.
“We’re sitting across the table from another, and he says with a tortured expression on his face: ‘Cardinal Baldisseri wants me to
change that.’ “
“I said ‘Why?’ ” “
He said: ‘It’s negative’ and that I should I begin with the ‘Joy of the Gospel’ [Pope Francis’ 2014 apostolic exhortation]33 and quote Pope Francis. Before Jesus Christ.”
Erdö asked the scholar: “Do you think I should quote Pope Francis first?”
The expert had been told by someone who knew Cardinal Erdö well that, although solidly orthodox, he would be liable to backtrack under pressure.
“You could have knocked me over with a feather”, the scholar told me. “Here we are, two days before the opening, there’s the Mass, two days before, and he’s asking me if we should start with Jesus Christ? I said, ‘Eminence, Jesus Christ is the same yesterday, today, and forever. He is the Alpha and the Omega. We start with Jesus Christ.’ He left it in. You’ll see it, it’s still the first line.”
But the cardinal was not so successful with the second line. In his draft, Cardinal Erdö had wanted to move from Jesus Christ to Pope Paul VI, Evangelii nuntiandi (his 1975 apostolic exhortation on evangelization in the modern world), and from there to Pope Saint John Paul II with Familiaris consortio and then Benedict XVI and finally Pope Francis.
But Cardinal Baldisseri said, “No, invert the order.” He wanted the opening Relatio to begin first with Francis and Evangelii gaudium and then cover the other popes. The scholar reminded Erdö that it was common to start with the earlier popes and follow through, in chronological order, to more recent popes, because that is how doctrine develops.
Despite this, Cardinal Baldisseri got his way. According to the scholar, after pushing Erdö to make several rewrites and appealing directly to the pope to have contributions from Forte and others reinstated that Erdö had removed, the text was accepted..
If the feeling is mutual, you do qualify.
If not, your wife could have an affair, and then you still qualify.
It’s so easy now. Francis has just written:
“Annulments for Dummies”. Anyone can get one.
See Post 7.
What experience do you have in working with diocesan tribunals?
That’s a moot question. Diocesan tribunals are now out the window, Sherlock.
Www.myannullment.com. or go the Vatican website and download the iAnnull app
Or ask Francis to call your cell phone.. He “forgives” sins over the phone.
No such thing as tribunals anymore, Sherlock. Don’t you get it?
However, I wouldn’t doubt that you have plenty of experience with them. What number wife are you on?
????? When you want out, just have an affair !
that says your *marriage* NEVER HAPPENED !!!!!!!!! ?????
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or -—— can you explain this ?
http://www.catholiccanonlaw.com/understanding%Joe don’t surf. 20canon%201095.2.pdf
No, they don’t still exist. It has been reduced to one cleric, either a Bishop or a priest that he has delegated his powers to.
If you want to ditch you wife, move to Boston or New York City.
Pure B.S.
• One judge under the responsibility of the bishop is enough to oversee the process.
• Under certain circumstances, each bishop can himself serve as the judge.
• In case of the annulment being “evident,” there will be an even shorter process.
• The local bishops’ conferences are called to help individual bishops through the reform process, and are called to help guarantee, save for the “just and decent remuneration of workers of the courts,” that the process be free of charge.
• Appeal of a sentence, in case it’s required, can be dealt with locally (on the level of the nearest archdiocese) instead of taking it to the Vatican.
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