Posted on 06/29/2015 7:52:55 AM PDT by Mercat
I’m really sorry but I still don’t understand your question. What is it? What is what?
What is “Sola Scriptura”? Im asking you if you know
I do understand that you don’t agree with Ken, the author of the article I posted. I’m happy to hear explanations as to why but I really can’t explain my position any better than Ken.
Why don’t you describe it. Sola scriptura means “only scripture” in Latin. The Latin word scriptura means writing. Sola means only. I referenced Luther because I think he coined the phrase. I can cut and paste the Wikipedia definition but you can do that. So again I ask, where in the Gospel did Jesus say, “go forth and teach all nations, writing down books and excluding others”? The first century was a world where although there was the written word, a lot of oral tradition still survived.
I’m now thinking of the movie, A Few Good Men where Cathey is doing re-direct on one of the witnesses, a regular marine from the post where Willie was killed. Kevin Bacon had just asked him to show where in the Marine code or in the military code he could find the term “code red.” He couldn’t. On redirect, Cathey asked him to show in either set of codes where the regs were on the location of the mess hall. He couldn’t but admitted that he ate “three squares” a day and had no trouble finding the mess hall. I go to church to be fed so this is an apt analogy for me. If that Marine had only acted based upon the marine and military code books, he would have starved to death.
So I don’t know whether that’s helpful but it is my rather inadequate response to what I think is your question.
now back to the question ...
In Jesus’s ministry on earth would his teaching be described as Sola scriptura...I'm not saying he taught a doctrine of it Im saying his teaching was a demonstration of it before the word was coined...
as opposed to the Catholic concept of having the centralized church being the final authority...which in Jesus day would have been the Sanhedrin...that put Jesus for blasphemy for not following in their authority.....
Was Jesus ministry was a demonstration of Protestant to the Central Church authority of his day..
I'm not saying he was a Protestant “the domination” I'm saying he's a demonstration of the concept protestant to the Central Church authority...
he was put on trial for blasphemy by that authority...so somebody had power to get him execute for not saying what he was supposed to be saying per the religious leader of his day
“In Jesus’s ministry on earth would his teaching be described as Sola scriptura...I’m not saying he taught a doctrine of it Im saying his teaching was a demonstration of it before the word was coined...”
The only time that we know that Jesus wrote was when he was telling the people “let he who is without sin caste the first stone.” So the whole scriptura thing didn’t apply. He was telling people things through parables and example and using the culture, the traditions, and the writings of the Hebrew people.
“as opposed to the Catholic concept of having the centralized church being the final authority...which in Jesus day would have been the Sanhedrin...that put Jesus for blasphemy for not following in their authority.....”
God is the final authority. The Body of Christ is the Church and the Bride of Christ. Here are the events of the Passion of Christ. The agony in the garden where Jesus experiences all the sins of everyone past, present, and future; the betrayal by Judas - probably the one person he knew who could approach him in intellect; the trial of the Sanhedrin - his immediate community where he had been worshiping for his entire life - remember - he was presented at the temple, he stayed there when he was 12, he came up to Jerusalem several times a year to observe the feasts as ordered. He knew these people. This was his way of showing us that we cannot rely on human beings, no matter what their titles and institutions, for salvation; He then had to be betrayed by his government. He had lived his entire life under the Romans. No love lost but still another loss and another way that he modeled to us not to rely on our government. These events were all part of his Passion so do I count on my Pope or my bishop to bring me salvation? No. My relationship is directly with Jesus. But my Church with all its sinners and faults is my way to the enrichment of my faith. It is there that I am fed.
“Was Jesus ministry was a demonstration of Protestant to the Central Church authority of his day..
I’m not saying he was a Protestant “the domination” I’m saying he’s a demonstration of the concept protestant to the Central Church authority...
he was put on trial for blasphemy by that authority...so somebody had power to get him execute for not saying what he was supposed to be saying per the religious leader of his day”
I think I already answered this. Protestants spend a lot of time afraid of Rome and of the Virgin Mary. I’m not sure why but still they are. I am blessed to be a Catholic so easily having been born into the faith. But every day I review the history and the traditions. I see nothing inconsistent with the scriptures. I have the faith but also the sacraments and the communion of saints to help me on my faith journey. I rejoice that I have the Church Fathers and the saints and Mary and especially that as Jesus ordered us to do, I can eat his body and drink his blood and become part of him as he is part of me. A “stumbling block” I know but there it is.
We respond with some portion of God's Word we haven't thrown in the garbage yet.
Above is the Truth as opposed to the stated sales pitch.
Where does the Catholic Church, papacy, ect...interpret from? From Scripture. The Church has to use Scripture, to interpret Scripture. So when you think about it, the church actually give Scripture the Final Authority. But I wonder why we would give mere man, the finite, the authority to interpret as he wish. The word of God is God breadth. Why do we need any thing else than that. If the church has the authority of interpretation, why then do we find contradictions from popes throughout history. God can’t and does not contradict himself, so thus interpretation must be false. And must not be inspired from God.
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