Posted on 02/25/2015 7:05:10 AM PST by SeekAndFind
The will of the Father for those that know Him is spiritual rebirth.
Wow, a lot of false teaching in that article!
I hope you posted it merely as an object lesson, and aren’t trying to lead people astray with it.
How about you show us how one of the points of the article are wrong.
What? You don’t see any error in that article??
He didn’t say that he didn’t “see any error in that article”. He just asked you to point out one of the errors that you spotted.
He doesn’t see any error in it. He teaches the very same false doctrine right here on FR.
You were the one who said there was “false teaching” in the article. Enlighten us.
So now you are a mind reader as well?
No, but I’m a good reader.
If you don’t want people to point out your false teaching, stop teaching it.
We heard that long before we get to that point if we read scripture.
John 6:28 Then they asked him, "What must we do to do the works God requires?" 29 Jesus answered, "The work of God is this: to believe in the one he has sent."
Jesus didn't say that prophesying or working miracles, or driving out demons would get anyone into heaven. Yet those people like Catholics thought it was about what they did.
>>The believer who does what God said. These will get in.<<
You provide no scripture to back that statement up. Show us where Jesus said that good works would get anyone into heaven.
>>Obviously they knew the Lord: They said unto Him, "Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in thy name..." No, according to Jesus, the reason they're sent away is because they didn't do what God said.<<
They knew who the Lord was. So do demons. They didn't say the trusted in His shed blood for their salvation. They thought their works would get them into heaven.
>>How wrong can he get? First he says you must "first trust Christ alone." Then he says this faith is "what God does."<<
Faith IS what God does. It's God who gives us faith.
Romans 12:3 For by the grace given me I say to every one of you: Do not think of yourself more highly than you ought, but rather think of yourself with sober judgment, in accordance with the faith God has distributed to each of you.
>>Does it still sound like we're not supposed to build anything?<<
Not of our own volition. The wood, hay and stubble works are what man does on his own. The works that last are the works that God does through us. You don't do those works. Mother Teresa did all kinds of "good works" but claimed that whatever god you served was good enough.
The carnal mind of man focuses on "good works" and will get to heaven thinking he deserves to be let in. He'll on hear "sorry Charlie". It's putting our faith and trust in Christ alone which will result in eternal life with Him. That faith is a gift of God and will produce fruit.
Excellent analysis. Thanks very much!
It’s good to discuss these things, and I’m happy to have been of some help. :-)
I think this statement must be understood consistent with the omniscience of Christ ( since He is God ).
For as the omniscient God He knows every person and their works and their hearts.
He knew what these people had been doing all their days under the guise of religion; He knew the principles of all their actions, and the views they had in all they did; nothing is hidden from him. But, as words of knowledge often carry in them the ideas of affection, and approbation, see Psalm 1:6 the meaning of Christ here is, I never had any love, or affection for you; I never esteemed you; I never made any account of you as mine, as belonging to me; I never approved of you, nor your conduct.
I never knew you in my Father’s choice, and my own, nor in my Father’s gift to me, nor in the everlasting covenant of grace; I never knew you as my sheep, for whom, in time, I died, and called by name; I never knew you believe in me, nor love me, or mine.
I have seen you in my house, preaching in my name, and at my table administering my ordinance; but I never knew you exalt my person, blood, righteousness, and sacrifice; you talk of the works you have done, I never knew you do one good work in all your lives, with a single eye to my glory; wherefore, I will neither hear, nor see you; I have nothing to do with you.
There are many such people in churches everywhere today.
"I never knew you do one good work in all your lives, with a single eye to my glory;"
That nails it for many of the "works based" people. They aren't doing for God's glory, they take the glory for themselves. Benny Hinn comes to mind.
There's no control over an innocent man. You have to make him guilty of something first.
From the very first, Mother Teresa and the Missionaries of Charity were driven by the desire "to quench the infinite thirst of Jesus Christ on the Cross for love of souls. . . by labouring at the salvation and sanctification of the poorest of the poor" (Letter of the Foundress). These are words which go to the heart of both your consecration, your "clinging to Jesus" in love, your thirsting for him who thirsts for you, and your mission of joyful and whole-hearted service to Jesus in the poorest of the poor, never forgetting the Lord’s own words: "As you did it to one of the least of these my brethren, you did it to me" (Mt 25:40). This is, as Pope Paul VI said in awarding the John XXIII Peace Prize to Mother Teresa in 1971, "the mystical and evangelical motive that transfigures the countenance of a poor, hungry person, a sickly child, someone repulsive with leprosy or a feeble man on his death-bed into the mysterious countenance of Christ".
Also this passage from Mother Teresa herself, not directly on point but possibly helpful:
"If our actions are just useful actions that give no joy to the people, our poor people would never be able to rise up to the call which we want them to hear, the call to come closer to God. We want to make them feel that they are loved."
"If in coming face to face with God we accept Him in our lives, then we are converting. We become a better Hindu, a better Muslim, a better Catholic, a better whatever we are. ... What God is in your mind you must accept" (from Mother Teresa: Her People and Her Work , by Desmond Doig, p. 156, as quoted by Dave Hunt, Global Peace and the Rise of Antichrist , p. 149).
Incorrect. Her own statement about her own call from God could not be more clear:
On the dusty train to Darjeeling, Mother Teresa heard a "call within call" --- "I was sure it was God's voice. The message was clear. I must leave the convent to help the poor by living with them. This was a command, something to be done. Something definite. I knew where I had to be. But I did not know to get there."
With all due respect. Joseph Smith also heard a call from god. People don’t make the statement Mother Teresa did having dedicated themselves to the one true God. Would you tell someone to be a better Hindu or Muslim?
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