Christ's Work of Redemption is Finished, Not Continuing

In Plain Site ^ | Feburary 7,2015 | James G. McCarthy

[metmom]

The idea that we do NOT grow in holiness, but that God merely lies to himself, and proclaims filthy sinners to be “saved,” is a Satanic idea.

No, God proclaims filthy sinners saved because He canceled the record of our sin debt that stood against us, nailing it to the cross.

We have a judicial pardon that declares us as if we had never sinned and that's how God deals with us under the new covenant.

Colossians 1:13-14 He has delivered us from the domain of darkness and transferred us to the kingdom of his beloved Son, in whom we have redemption, the forgiveness of sins.

Colossians 2:13-14 And you, who were dead in your trespasses and the uncircumcision of your flesh, God made alive together with him, having forgiven us all our trespasses, by canceling the record of debt that stood against us with its legal demands. This he set aside, nailing it to the cross.

Colossians 3:3 For you have died, and your life is hidden with Christ in God.

That is why we are once saved, always saved. Because our sin has been paid for by the death of Jesus and nothing we can do can change that because ALL our sin debt has been paid.

So there's no sin left that we can commit that God can hold against us.

[Resettozero]

A few years ago during a service she was finally saved. Of course all of her friends and family believed she had been saved all along, but she knew she had never been saved at all. She says heard the gospel for the very first time that day. Of course she had heard and read the words many times before. And she had shared them with others. But that day it was different because she heard it at the heart level and knew God was at work.

My testimony carries similarities to hers, as far as the folks back home knew. Thirty-two years were misspent by me.

Never underestimate the degree of conviction that can be brought upon an errant sinning sheep by the Holy Spirit in response to the earnest and persistent prayers of Godly parents.

[terycarl]

The Catholic Church hadn’t been established at that tine

Sure it had...Upon this Rock I will build My church..the birth of Catholiciam...admittedly named a little later but we're dealing with a 2,015 year old institution....what's a few months or years matter.....by the end of the first century (a blink of the eye)...they were Catholic (universal) and gone through 3 or 4 Popes already...

[Resettozero]

I don’t know. He sounded like an authority. Struck me as an odd way of posting Christian ideas. Why?

[CynicalBear]

>>But that day it was different because she heard it at the heart level and knew God was at work.<<

Only those who have experienced that understand that.

[terycarl]

He wasn’t. But Satan has one for Roman Catholics.

Wanna bet??? I like my odds REAL WELL..

[metmom]

Primarily what the resurrection proved was THE COMPLETION of the work of Christ and stamps "it is finished " with an exclamation point..1 Cor .."If Christ is not risen, then our faith is in vain. We are yet in our sins, and we are of all men most miserable."

And yet, the Catholic church still has Him being sacrificed, but never victorious. Constantly dying and being killed, but never rising and conquering.

We OTOH, worship THIS Christ, the risen and glorified Christ.

Revelation 1:12-16 Then I turned to see the voice that was speaking to me, and on turning I saw seven golden lampstands, and in the midst of the lampstands one like a son of man, clothed with a long robe and with a golden sash around his chest.

The hairs of his head were white, like white wool, like snow. His eyes were like a flame of fire, his feet were like burnished bronze, refined in a furnace, and his voice was like the roar of many waters. In his right hand he held seven stars, from his mouth came a sharp two-edged sword, and his face was like the sun shining in full strength.

[CynicalBear]

Interesting that those passages must not be taught in the Catholic Church.

[HossB86]

Catholics wrote the New Testament long before Luther, Calvin and Zwingly saw the light of day.

Survey says....

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Sorry -- the New Testament was written by the authors -- Matthew, Mark, Luke, John, Paul, etc.... NOT the Roman Catholic Cult.

Hoss

[Karl Spooner]

So there's no sin left that we can commit that God can hold against us.

Just one, there is the 'unpardonable sin'.

[CynicalBear]

>>and gone through 3 or 4 Popes already...<<

ROFL! Actually lots of them. A single declared pope didn't happen until hundreds of years later. Only duped and uneducated Catholics believe that single pope from Peter on lie.

[Resettozero]

Just one, there is the 'unpardonable sin'.

When I read that concluding line in metmom's post, I paused to consider what she said.

Regarding the unpardonable sin...not to be confused with a sin that leads to death of the physical body...that is a sin committed only by unbelievers in Lord Jesus Christ. I think it is the sin of a lost person rejecting all the promptings of the Holy Spirit to believe completely in Jesus of Nazareth to the point that one is actually born of the Spirit, bringing pleasure to Almighty God and the angels in Heaven. Permanent rejection of that Gospel is rejection of the Holy Spirit, an unpardonable sin.

[terycarl]

Also, no one finds the Lord of course by thinking clearly...

I know a lady, an educated lady, who was baptized as a girl and had been active in church for sixty years. Her husband served as a foreign missionary and she had been a choir member and Sunday School teacher. A few years ago during a service she was finally saved.

Ummmmmmmmmmmyour first statement was questionable....as far as your lady story just how old was this "newly saved" lady with years of dedicated service behind her????

[metmom]

The believer is not going to commit that one.

Calling the Holy Spirit *Satan* leaves one with no recourse for conviction of sin or redemption. There is no other way by which man can be drawn to God, so those who commit that sin have no option for being saved.

[Petrosius]

Actually, "it is finished" are the closing words of the Passover meal. The Last Supper was not just any ordinary meal. It was the Jewish Passover. This was a highly ritualistic and structured meal. During this meal flesh of the lamb which had been sacrificed was eaten. There were also four ritualistic cups of wine that had to be drunken. The first two were before the meal. At the meal itself Jesus presented his own body as the new Lamb of God. His blood was presented as the third cup. They then sang a hymn and departed.

But the Passover meal was not yet over. The hymn that they sang was the Hillel. After this they were to drink the fourth cup. They did not do so. It was this fourth cup, which he would drink on the Cross, that our Lord referred to when he prayed to the Father in the Garden, "Father, if it be possible, take this cup from me…" Only when our Lord was at the point of death would he drink of the "fruit of the vine", the fourth cup. He then spoke the words "It is finished" which was the ritualistic conclusion of the Passover meal.

When Jesus gave the command, "Do this in remembrance of me," he was not just speaking of the sharing of bread and wine, but of the entire new Passover sacrificial meal. And this is what Catholics do at the Sacrifice of the Mass in obedience to his command.

[metmom]

Ummmmmmmmmmmyour first statement was questionable...

God is not found through intellectual reasoning but by the drawing of the soul to God by the Holy Spirit.

Jesus said that no one comes to the Father unless he is drawn.

.as far as your lady story just how old was this "newly saved" lady with years of dedicated service behind her????

Further evidence that Catholicism teaches a works based salvation.

Catholics just cannot grasp that all those works did not mean a thing without the new birth.

And yes, people can do good things without being saved. Therein lies the danger of Catholic teaching. People who have an intellectual assent to the teachings of the church, and add works to them, end up thinking that they are saved when in reality they aren't because they have never been regenerated.

[metmom]

Ummmmmmmmmmmyour first statement was questionable...

God is not found through intellectual reasoning but by the drawing of the soul to God by the Holy Spirit.

Jesus said that no one comes to the Father unless he is drawn.

.as far as your lady story just how old was this "newly saved" lady with years of dedicated service behind her????

Nor do Catholics understand the new birth and the change that it works in a person's heart.

[Resettozero]

You had me...until your incongruous last sentence, a non-sequitur, blew your post to smithereens.

[metmom]

So which body of Jesus is the Catholic church sacrificing?

His old body, which died?

Or His new resurrected body?

[terycarl]

Nope...the burden's on you for this. The rcc only recognized their bible at Trent in the 1500s. Not sure what they were operating under prior to that. The Christian church had their Bible long before that.

Nope..history is on my side...if Christians had a Bible, other than the Catholic Bible...who wrote it??

Why could you even make the statement that the Catholics didn't have a Bible before the 1500's but whatever christians that there were before then (NONE)had one????

Pius III was the Pope in 1503 (#215) and you say they didn't have a Bible????

Just explain that to me...I'm obviously not too bright...Pope #215...No Bible....No Protestants (not around for a few years yet) no other Christians.....how did Christianity ever survive that???????