Posted on 02/08/2015 3:28:55 PM PST by RnMomof7
Praise the Lord! It’s sometimes very hard for loved ones to accept, but we are saved on His timetable.
“Thy people shall be willing in the day of thy power...”(Psalms 110:3)
Protestantism, like the disciples in John 6, find many of the words of our Lord hard and difficult to accept. They then try to use human reasoning to find a way to say that our Lord's words don't really mean what they seem to mean. Like the disciples who walked away, they must understand our Lord's words by human standards before they will believe. As a Catholic, I will stand with Peter who, when asked, "will you leave me too?", responded: "Master, to whom shall we go? You have the words of eternal life." I will accept what Jesus said in faith and then seek to understand it.
OH MAN!!!!!!!!!!PROTESTANTISM HERE I COME.....no sin that we can commit that God can hold against us....I Hope that you have that in writing with a notarized signature of God Himself or I fear that you are in grave danger
You can't POSSIBLY be saying that you can do anything you like, any depraved, obscene, illegal, immoral, dangerous,perverted act that you can humanly concieve...and God will be O.K. with it.....WOW
Now that's the most accurate thing you've ever said in these threads! :)
If you say so......BILLIONS of others don't.
Greetings Roman_War_Criminal!
You said “And notice the past tense “crucified” not “crucifying”. Hebrews 10:12. It’s was once and for all (for all who wanted it).”
A closer examination of the word “crucified” can be found here:
Gal 2:20 I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me.
Again, we see the OMIPRESENCE of God at work. With God there is no past or future. The Apostle Paul proclaimed “I AM crucified with Christ.” Similarly, in 1Cor 2:2, Paul proclaims that the Crucified Christ is the image in his mind.
“Protestantism, like the disciples in John 6, find many of the words of our Lord hard and difficult to accept. They then try to use human reasoning to find a way to say that our Lord’s words don’t really mean what they seem to mean”
It’s easier than that. We simply disagree with the Roman interpretation of the passage. I can’t speak for anyone else, but if I sincerely thought Christ’s words meant what Rome claims, I would believe them. It isn’t difficult in the least to joyfully receive the message of God. It just doesn’t say what Rome claims. Therefore I obey what it says.
Oh, I do acknowledge it in proper order. To serve God as such is inestimable high privilege. To constantly say “LOOK WHAT WE DID FOR YOU! LOOK WHAT WE DID FOR YOU!” is to miss the point that it was HE who really did it, IN SPITE OF much opposition.
My point re: Pharoah is that God’s will would be done PERIOD. Nothing would thwart it, not even errant Church men.
Nope...'fraid not. The Christians in the early church moved by the Holy Spirit penned the words we have today in the Bible.
You claim a roman catholic church member wrote the current Bible we have today.
However, in no place in the NT does any writer declare they are a member of the roman catholic church.
There are lots of places where the NT talks about the church. The word used is ekklesia and generally means people who have been called out from the world and to God, the universal body of believers who God calls from the world and into His eternal kingdom.
I find no mention of the roman catholic church in that definition.
Greeting metmom!
You posted: “Yes, the work of redemption was finished at Calvary, but God’s Omnipresent nature makes the event of the crucifixion a present reality.
Chapter and verse for that please?”
Gal 2:20 I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me.
I don’t know her exact age, but she was already retired, but she was around 70. Her grandchildren witnessed her second baptism.
The bickering in this thread is doing a splendid job of making people want to become a Christian. Each person tends to follow Christ in his own fashion, and each will face his Maker individually when his time comes. Take the board out of one’s own eye before pointing out the speck in the eye of another—particularly anyone who is trying to follow Jesus Christ.
You're correct this time. I didn't say that I could do it or that God would be OK with it.
Nevertheless, my sin debt is paid and there's nothing left for God to hold against me.
I fear far too many are like the Jews of Paul’s day.
“10 Brothers, my heart’s desire and prayer to God for them is that they may be saved. 2 For I bear them witness that they have a zeal for God, but not according to knowledge. 3 For, being ignorant of the righteousness of God, and seeking to establish their own, they did not submit to God’s righteousness. 4 For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to everyone who believes.”
I notice that you didn't answer my very simple question!!
So which body of Jesus is the Catholic church sacrificing?
His old body, which died?
Or His new resurrected body?
Since you didn’t answer the questions the first time, I figured I’d give you another shot at it.
Greetings metmom!
You posted: “What about the verses that state that Christ is seated at the right hand of the Father in heaven? Don’t they count for anything?”
Certainly they do! The present ministry of Christ is twofold.
1-Resurrection Power
2-Crucifixion Suffering
Phil 3:10 That I may know him, and the power of his resurrection, and the fellowship of his sufferings, being made conformable unto his death.
The danger is rejecting one or the other. One of the great sins of Evangelical Christianity is its rejection of the current ministry of the crucifixion of Christ in the life of the saved Christian.
Roman Catholicism is one of the very few Christian faiths that embrace the crucifixion of Christ and its important ministry in the everyday life of the believer.
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