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Mary Matters (Dr. Walter Martin on disbelief in the Mother of God)
Catholic Exchange ^ | JULY 26, 2014 | Tim Staples

Posted on 01/24/2015 3:23:43 PM PST by NYer

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To: Arthur McGowan; CA Conservative
>>Is Jesus a sinner? The verse says ALL have sinned.<<

Did Jesus take the sins of the world upon Himself? Yes He did and that's why He had to die. Now, tell us who's sins Mary had to die for.

981 posted on 01/27/2015 8:19:43 AM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: CynicalBear; omegatoo; metmom

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Who raised God up after he died?

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982 posted on 01/27/2015 8:19:43 AM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Arthur McGowan; metmom
>>No matter how many times you explain that “God” in “Mother of God” refers to Jesus, who is God, metmom will always insist that “God” in “Mother of God” refers to the eternal Triune Godhead.<<

Once again. Was the Godhead separated when Jesus died or was Jesus manhood and Godhood separated.?

As to the rest of your post I do believe you have been chastised for "making it personal" have you not? And also isn't in considered courtesy in these threads to ping anyone you mention in a post?

983 posted on 01/27/2015 8:23:10 AM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: editor-surveyor

The woman constellation is the sixth in His order..

The first was the Ram/lamb... it headed the year (the sun was located in this sign at the spring equinox) a few thousand years ago..
The seventh sign would be the scales or the balances in the sky when the ram/lamb is the first.
(It would make the 6th sign the woman)
We have been living with the two fish as the start (sun location at spring equinox)

When the two fish are the first, the seventh month is the woman..

1st month ram/lamb. 7th month then - the scales/balance
1st month two fish. 7th month then - the woman
Next one:
1st month water bearer. 7th month then - lion

We dont need NASA.. We have His sun, moon and stars as our guide..

His plan of salvation, genesis to revelation, in His sky..

And He set them around His Feasts.
The first and seventh month.

The passover lamb and the atonement that equals the balances.

The fisher of men and the virgin bride, His church.

The outpouring of His Spirit And the return of the Lion of Judah..

All up there before pen met parchment..


984 posted on 01/27/2015 8:23:13 AM PST by delchiante
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To: CynicalBear; Heart-Rest

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Nowhere does scripture say “Faith cometh by hearing the word of God interpreted.”

The word is to be read and heard, but never “interpreted.”

Interpretation is always an act of man and the acts of men are all of filthy rags.

Take the word as written.


985 posted on 01/27/2015 8:29:45 AM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Elsie
You Catholics have... Pope Stephen VI Pope John XII Pope Benedict IX Pope Boniface VIII Pope Urban VI Pope Alexander VI Pope Leo X Pope Clement VII Enjoy!

and not one of them attempted to change Christianity and start their own version of what Christ's church really meant....

986 posted on 01/27/2015 8:32:19 AM PST by terycarl (common sense prevails over all)
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To: editor-surveyor

The agriculture was nowhere to be found for those 40 years in the wilderness..

They used the sun and moon.

How?

You will see in a coming months that the sliver crescent will appear in the bottom of the moon, like it is smiling.

It will travel each month (moon) up up about 90 degrees through the year and back down again that can be seen with no crops..

The had no crop to plant in the wilderness and yet they knew how to tell time..

And we today can ignore our smart phones and look up..

His redemption draws near..

Saturn day isn’t holy.. in fact scripture warned us that saturn worship could and would happen.. see chiun..

The battle of Jericho began on a new moon day ( book the f jasher). And lasted seven days and no sabbath was violated..
the popes calendar can’t do that.. But His does it every month..


987 posted on 01/27/2015 8:35:15 AM PST by delchiante
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To: delchiante

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>> “The first was the Ram/lamb... it headed the year (the sun was located in this sign at the spring equinox) a few thousand years ago.” <<

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This is evil pagan nonsense!

Yehova’s year is not dependent on the sun! That idea is the essence of the paganism that Yehova prohibited.

Yehova’s year depends only on his barley, and can never be subservient to the sun.

The catholic’s chief error is their worship of the sun!

They constantly make Mithra’s sign of the sun across their heart.

They eat the sun cake, and credit it with their salvation.

You are making yourself a sun worshiper if you hold his Holy year dependent in any way on the sun.

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988 posted on 01/27/2015 8:39:05 AM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Iscool
My only man is Jesus Christ...I follow him and the book he left for us to study...

Me too, and I follow the church that He founded and the church which compiled and preserved that book...

989 posted on 01/27/2015 8:39:32 AM PST by terycarl (common sense prevails over all)
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To: delchiante

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>> “They used the sun and moon.” <<

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No they did not!

At no time has the sun in any way controlled any part of the worship of Yehova.
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990 posted on 01/27/2015 8:42:06 AM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor

To tell time!


991 posted on 01/27/2015 8:42:57 AM PST by delchiante
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To: delchiante

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Can you not see that only the setting of the sun is of importance in Yehova’s scheme, and it is not what sets the time for the day. It divides the days only.

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992 posted on 01/27/2015 8:45:28 AM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: ADSUM; Iscool
>>We all have the free will to choose God or not.<<

John 6:63 But there are some of you that believe not. For Jesus knew from the beginning who they were that believed not, and who should betray him.

John 6:44 No one can come to me unless the Father who sent me draws them, and I will raise them up at the last day.

Jesus was explaining why they left.

993 posted on 01/27/2015 8:50:17 AM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: delchiante

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The barley that controls the year is not planted, it re-seeds itself, and grows over all of the wilderness in which Israel dwelt before their entry to Canaan.

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Your assumptions are blocking the word of God.

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994 posted on 01/27/2015 8:50:21 AM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor

I use His Sun, moon and stars for signs, seasons (appointed times for worship) days and years just like it says in Genesis 1:14 that He gave them to us, and that is pagan?

That is funny,. Calling today His 5th day and thanking Him for what He made on His 5th day, not calling it after some god named tiw is pagan..

I guess the verse he ordained the stars is lost on you..


995 posted on 01/27/2015 8:51:43 AM PST by delchiante
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To: CynicalBear
>>So, in some unfathomable way, beyond human understanding, God did die.<< Wow! Just wow! No, God didn't die. It was Jesus fleshly earthly body that died and to which Mary gave birth. The absurd statement and belief that God "in some unfathomable way" died but to not understand that Mary "in some unfathomable way" did not give birth to God is astounding.

Jessus, God, did indeed die...the only sacrifice that was acceptable to the Father was His son...God...a mere man would not have been sufficient.

996 posted on 01/27/2015 8:54:44 AM PST by terycarl (common sense prevails over all)
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To: delchiante

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Seasons are not “appointed times for worship.”

His appointed times for worship are set out in Leviticus 23.

The stars are for signs, and the moons are for months, in fact the word ‘month’ means moon.

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997 posted on 01/27/2015 8:55:16 AM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: delchiante; editor-surveyor
Galatians 4:9 But now, after that ye have known God, or rather are known of God, how turn ye again to the weak and beggarly elements, whereunto ye desire again to be in bondage? 10 Ye observe days, and months, and times, and years. 11 I am afraid of you, lest I have bestowed upon you labour in vain.
998 posted on 01/27/2015 8:57:01 AM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: CynicalBear; Grateful2God
>>said unto her: Hail, full of grace<<<> No, that falsehood is NOT worth repeating.

never mind what the Bible says...the Protestants get to make up their own interpretations...makes Christianity so much easier to understand.....like "take and eat of this,THIS IS MY BODY" doesn't really mean that.....

999 posted on 01/27/2015 8:58:51 AM PST by terycarl (common sense prevails over all)
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To: editor-surveyor

The Hebrew word used there is moed

If you have a concordance, look it up.. #4150..

See people think its spring, summer fall and winter...nope

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1,000 posted on 01/27/2015 8:59:29 AM PST by delchiante
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