Posted on 01/24/2015 3:23:43 PM PST by NYer
is that yet ANOTHER protestant denomination.....????
I KNEW IT!!!!!!!!!after the Mary's time line post, could the list of naughty Popes be far behind???? WOW, that was quick!!
If you focus too much on Jesus as a baby, you might just lose sight of his real mission.
I haven't had a chaance to look them up yet but if they are all ruined and no longer teaching errors then they have been replaced by the Protestant churches who have a whole lot more than seven teaching error....THOUSANDS in face, and not all in Asia!!
....”If you focus too much on Jesus as a baby, you might just lose sight of his real mission.”....
They need to do so in order to keep their mariology in view...what’s mary without a baby!
It’s like Jesus as the man and savior that he IS... is consistantly and methodically being pushed aside for the sake of anthing the moment might call for...be it rose beads...the next image someone sees in a tree or bush...and on and on and on...it’s just endless “stuff”.
The word-for-word literal English translation of the Greek for "2 Peter 1:20", as found at Biblehub.com is:
"This first knowing that any prophecy of scripture of its own interpretation not is"
Where do you see the term "the prophet's own interpretation" in the Greek for 2 Peter 1:20? (Hint: The term "the prophet's" isn't there in that Greek Bible text, "2 Peter 1:20". That was not in the Greek, but was added in your English translation shown in your post #298.)
It is plain that your so-called "Greek translation" is simply not accurate, CynicalBear. It has been creatively doctored up, with a phantom phrase added to the English "translation" you posted, which simply does not appear in the Greek text. It is bogus, with those words "the prophet's" shamelessly inserted into that Bible text, just like the Jehovah's Witnesses insert various things in their own "New World" translation of the Bible not found in the Greek, to subtly change the meaning of various Bible texts, in order to try to add false support for a false position.
Now here are some common Protestant translations of that verse. (You may want us to believe that you are a better translator than all the teams of English translators who translated all these Bible translations, but I'm certain that nobody here believes that for a split second, and I'm pretty sure we never will CynicalBear. At least the people who translated these English versions of the Bible, didn't try to insert imaginary phrases not found in the Greek texts for "2 Peter 1:20".)
Some Common Protestant Bible Versions Of "2 Peter 1:20"
"Knowing this first, that no prophecy of scripture is of private interpretation." - 2 Peter 1:20 - American Standard Version (ASV)
"Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation." - 2 Peter 1:20 - King James Version (KJV)
"But know this first of all, that no prophecy of Scripture is a matter of one’s own interpretation." - 2 Peter 1:20 - New American Standard Bible (NASB)
"First of all you must understand this, that no prophecy of scripture is a matter of one’s own interpretation." - 2 Peter 1:20 - Revised Standard Version (RSV) - Protestant Edition)
(It is always a good idea to stick to the truth.)
(And, by the way, the nonsensical claim that the Catholic Church "tries to keep people from reading and understanding scripture" is also blatantly and grievously false, as any Catholic here will be able to truthfully confirm for you.)
no they don't
Want me to lay it out there for you?.... Better still pay attention to what the Vatican is doing and you can learn alot about what you’re apparently uninformed of currently.
Your welcome :). I don’t believe Our Lady is a co-redeemed. That title belongs only to Our Lord. I believe that as His mother she is in a unique position to advocate for we mortals both here and in the after life. As I mentioned in my original post she also acts as His messenger. In the Hail Mary we don’t ask her to forgive our sins, only Jesus can do that rather we ask her to pray for us us sinners that we might be forgiven.
“You guys like James so much for it’s FAITH WITHOUT WORKS IS DEAD; so here is more of what he wrote: James 2:10...For whoever keeps the whole law and yet stumbles at just one point is guilty of breaking all of it.”
That popped out at me when I read James a few weeks ago. Talk about agreement with Paul! Same fatal diagnosis for anyone seeking justification through works of the law. James’ seemingly counter arguments need to be seen in light of this truth.
We are capable of being tempted because we do not see God as he is, but only by analogy, through our various experiences in this life.
Jesus was tempted, but there was never any danger that he would sin because he could not be deceived. That's the whole point of his temptations: He was tempted like Adam, at the very beginning of his public ministry, but unlike Adam, Jesus did not sin. Jesus' temptations are NOT about his being WEAK, but about his TRIUMPHING over sin.
Jesus, in heaven, remains both God and man. He cannot sin because he sees God as he is, not, as we do "as in a glass, darkly," as St. Paul says.
You seem to be a Manichean or some other form of Gnostic: "Spirit is good, the body is bad," or "Divine is good, human is evil."
Gnosticism is a perennial distortion of Christianity.
4.....” We Ourselves called this the heralding of the “SOVEREIGNTY OF MARY”......
19.....”Be enthroned, Lady, for it is fitting that you should sit in an exalted place since you are a Queen and glorious ABOVE ALL KINGS.”
20.....”the perpetual Queen beside the King, her son, (Equal to)
21.....”O my Lady, my SOVERIEGHN, You who RULE over me.”
22.... “the Queen of ALL creatures, the Queen of the world, and the RULER OF ALL.”
27.....”the ranks of the heavenly army bow before thee”.
29.....” thou art greater than the many-eyed cherubim and the six-winged seraphim . . . Heaven and earth are filled with the sanctity of thy glory.”
30.....”rejoice because she reigns WITH Christ forever.”
32....”Mary as Queen and Empress seated upon a royal throne adorned with royal insignia, crowned with the royal diadem and surrounded by the host of angels and saints in heaven, and ruling not only over nature and its powers but also over the machinations of Satan.
Oh there’s so much of this on the Vatican site...just go there and see for yourself....
...”Gnostic-ism is a perennial distortion of Christianity”....
So is catholic-ism.
What you say would be true if “Christian” meant “good person.”
But it doesn’t.
He established His church and then waited for the Catholic Gutenberg to invent the printing press so His word would be spread........O.K., but He sure took the long way around and wasted 1,600 years doing it...
That's beautiful, thank you! Please pray for me; I find it hard to forgive sometimes; and you're right- that does disturb one's peace!
God bless you!
Grateful : )
Perhaps applicable:
1 Corinthians 15 King James Version (KJV)
20 But now is Christ risen from the dead, and become the firstfruits of them that slept.
21 For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead.
22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.
23 But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ’s at his coming.
And this same chapter:
50 Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption.
51 Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,
52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.
53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.
54 So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory.
55 O death, where is thy sting? O grave, where is thy victory?
To post 596: EWTN has TV, internet, Short wave, phone streaming; satellite radio: name it. The Gospel is being proclaimed throughout the world! Amen!
....”The Gospel is being proclaimed throughout the world!”...
Which Gospel..there are several floating around out there..
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