Posted on 01/24/2015 3:23:43 PM PST by NYer
LOL.
And who knows right? Mary was so insignificant at the time there wasn't even one writer, either secular or religious who even cared enough to keep track of where she lived or spent her last days. Nobody knows where she lived, where she died, or where she was buried. Even the apostles themselves never again even mentioned her.
I said that thing in 770. I backed off that thing in 784. That thing about the Son in His divinity leaving the body made sense. The spirit lives on when the body dies.
To say that Jesus did not die in his divinity is different from saying Mary is the mother of God. Matthew 1 and Luke 1 both tell us that the child that Mary conceived and bore in the womb, Jesus, is God. In Matthew, He is called Emmanuel, which means “God is with us,” and in Luke, He is called the Son of the Most High and the Son of God.
The child that Mary conceived and bore was not the Father. The child that Mary conceived and bore was not the Holy Spirit. So, no, Mary is not the mother of the Triune Godhead. But Matthew and Luke both tell us that she conceived and gave birth to the Son of God.
I have a better understanding of why you have a problem with the concept of Mary being the mother of God, but how do you contradict what Matthew 1 and Luke 1 tells us? How can the child that the angel calls the Son of God not be the Son of God?
Many of them at the same time right?
The word pope derives from Greek πάππας meaning "Father". In the early centuries of Christianity, this title was applied, especially in the east, to all bishops and other senior clergy, and later became reserved in the west to the Bishop of Rome, a reservation made official only in the 11th century. [Greer, Thomas H.; Gavin Lewis (2004). A Brief History of the Western World. Cengage Learning. p. 172. ISBN 9780534642365. Retrieved 2013-02-18.]
And still Catholics keep spreading their fiction.
They have bet their lives on it.
They have bet their eternity on it.
The child that Mary conceived and bore was not the Father. The child that Mary conceived and bore was not the Holy Spirit. So, no, Mary is not the mother of the Triune Godhead. But Matthew and Luke both tell us that she conceived and gave birth to the Son of God.
And yet saying *mother of GOD* says exactly what you are denying, while using the term the Holy Spirit used in Scripture, *mother of Jesus* DOES say what you are stating.
When you say *God* to people, who or what do you expect them to think of first?
And if you are meaning *Jesus* in a conversation, don't you specify that it's Jesus so as not to be confused with the Holy Spirit or the Father?
Catholics can try to explain away, excuse, justify, and rationalize all they want how *mother of God* is the same as *mother of Jesus* but is simply is not the case.
They say two different things.
Better put that into perspective.
Galatians 3:26 for ye are all sons of God through the faith in Christ Jesus,
2 Corinthians 6:18 And I will be your Father, and you will be my sons and daughters, says the LORD Almighty."
Romans 8:14 For those who are led by the Spirit of God are the children of God.
And Catholics think only the Son died on that cross?
Colossians 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.
Colossians 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.
Seems he's got a problem with that comment.
Yup. Unless you accept the Holy Trinity, you have a dead guy on a stick.
That struck me as funny. I’m still chuckling.
Jalapeño on a stick. : )
Why do you keep spreading that lie? And this lie:
but from day one of Christianity, Catholics began to write the Bible,
Another falsehood.
What happened to the Jews, the Egyptians, etc????
So do you believe that God died too, when Jesus died?
We’ve had three RC’s claim that, although one has since retracted it, but the other two have not.
as we all know, there is only one God, therefore everyone serves that God....The Muslims have gone astray and have come up with someone called allah who is OBVIOUSLY not the God of the Bible.
Because they have strayed meane that they have chosen to honor a god that does not exist but that, in no way, releases them from their obligation to serve the one and only God....which they do...they, however, do a very poor job of doing so...
I assumed that you knew that...however it drives my nuts to see the MSM and everyone else giving that evil SOB the honor of being called a prophet.
Let's see -
Matthew was Jewish;
Mark was Jewish;
Luke was Gentile;
John was Jewish;
Paul was Jewish;
James was Jewish;
Peter was Jewish;
Jude was Jewish...
What were saying again about the Jews not writing the Bible? By my count, I can only see 2 books in the New Testament that were NOT written by Jews (Luke and Acts, both written by Luke).
spiritually....no.
Your CCC states differently.
http://www.vatican.va/archive/ENG0015/__P29.HTM
841 The Church's relationship with the Muslims. "The plan of salvation also includes those who acknowledge the Creator, in the first place amongst whom are the Muslims; these profess to hold the faith of Abraham, and together with us they adore the one, merciful God, mankind's judge on the last day."330
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