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All Souls, Purgatory and the Bible
Da Mihi Animas ^ | November 2 2014

Posted on 11/02/2014 3:14:08 PM PST by NYer

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To: FatherofFive
Amen!

In fact, time is not a Heavenly issue. Time is an earthly, human factor.

Time is not an issue for God. He and Heaven are eternal and timeless.

He is beyond time.

So how does purgatory figure into eternity?

21 posted on 11/02/2014 3:55:09 PM PST by RoosterRedux
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To: NYer

“Why didn’t this man, crucified next to our Lord, go to purgatory?

He acknowledged Jesus, repented of his sins and hung on a cross ... THAT was his purgatory. “

So let me get this straight; anybody who acknowledges Christ, repents of their sins, then suffers death in some way that is punishment for their sins (which we all do since the wages of sin is death - Romans 6:23), then they are not in need of purgatory? So in other words, none of us who are saved need purgatory. Thanks for clearing that up.


22 posted on 11/02/2014 3:55:18 PM PST by lquist1
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To: RoosterRedux
Point out such lack of courtesy on this thread.

Is that a request, order, comment, kudo or something else?
Honest question.

23 posted on 11/02/2014 3:55:55 PM PST by cloudmountain
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To: lquist1

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LOL!
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24 posted on 11/02/2014 3:56:53 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: RoosterRedux

Well there is nothing wrong with saying that there was some bashing going on.


25 posted on 11/02/2014 3:57:26 PM PST by Biggirl
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To: Biggirl
How is your point different from the denial of liberals and islamists of any dissenting points of view?

Can't the Truth stand up to dissenting opinions and beliefs?

26 posted on 11/02/2014 3:57:37 PM PST by RoosterRedux
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To: Biggirl

Point out the bashing. Is bashing a difference of opinion?


27 posted on 11/02/2014 3:58:44 PM PST by RoosterRedux
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To: RoosterRedux

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>> “So how does purgatory figure into eternity?” <<

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Its a place unbelievers can pretend that they are instead of hell?

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28 posted on 11/02/2014 3:58:56 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: cloudmountain

A humble request of course.


29 posted on 11/02/2014 3:59:25 PM PST by RoosterRedux
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To: editor-surveyor

Define “unbeliever”?


30 posted on 11/02/2014 4:00:04 PM PST by RoosterRedux
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To: Slyfox
So, not just Catholics pray for the dead. It is an Jewish custom dating back to the Torah.

Book of Maccabees. In the 16th c., Luther, reacting to serious abuses and clerical corruption in the Latin Church, to his own heretical theological vision removed those books from the canon that lent support to orthodox doctrine, relegating them to an appendix. Removed in this way were books that supported such things as prayers for the dead (Tobit 12:12; 2 Maccabees 12:39-45), Purgatory (Wisdom 3:1-7), intercession of dead saints (2 Maccabees 15:14), and intercession of angels as intermediaries (Tobit 12:12-15). Ultimately, the "Reformers" decided to ignore the canon determined by the Christian Councils of Hippo and Carthage (and reaffirmed and closed at the Council of Trent4), and resort solely to those texts determined to be canonical at the Council of Jamnia.

31 posted on 11/02/2014 4:00:45 PM PST by NYer ("You are a puff of smoke that appears briefly and then disappears." James 4:14)
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To: RoosterRedux

Well the above posted article did cite scripture in it. So the TRUTH was pointed out.


32 posted on 11/02/2014 4:01:30 PM PST by Biggirl
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To: RoosterRedux
humble request of course.

My goodness, that is so nice. MMMmmmmwaaaaaa!!!

DONE!

33 posted on 11/02/2014 4:02:29 PM PST by cloudmountain
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To: NYer

Catholics are told that they just made up Purgatory and yet its concept is older than the Reformation.


34 posted on 11/02/2014 4:04:16 PM PST by Slyfox (To put on the mind of George Washington read ALL of Deuteronomy 28, then read his Farewell Address)
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To: cloudmountain
I don't bash or criticize THEIR beliefs. Why can't that courtesy be reciprocated?

I can easily answer that!

When some of see the errors of Roman Catholic doctrines displayed to deceive those without proper understanding, we are required to post the appropriate Scriptures to give TRUTH instead of confusion.

What some consider as common courtesy is used in such a way as saying "anti-Catholic" or other nonsensical labels.

Christians are anyone that has made the decision to follow Christ, and the RC church catechism says we must only come to Jesus through that organization. That is extra-Biblical like much of the customs and traditions of the organization.

Romans 6: 5 For if we have been united with him in a death like his, we will certainly also be united with him in a resurrection like his. 6 For we know that our old self was crucified with him so that the body ruled by sin might be done away with,[a] that we should no longer be slaves to sin— 7 because anyone who has died has been set free from sin. ...

35 posted on 11/02/2014 4:04:43 PM PST by WVKayaker (Impeachment is the Constitution's answer for a derelict, incompetent president! -Sarah Palin 7/26/14)
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To: RoosterRedux
Define “unbeliever”?

It's someone who doesn't TOE THE LINE for what the opposing side says as The his Truth. Doncha know? :o)

36 posted on 11/02/2014 4:05:31 PM PST by cloudmountain
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To: goodwithagun
Can we make a pact to ignore the bashers and have a decent discussion about this?

For the last several weeks I give them one response (if that many) and then just tell them "you are wrong" and move on.

37 posted on 11/02/2014 4:06:14 PM PST by verga (You anger Catholics by telling them a lie, you anger protestants by telling them the truth.)
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To: WVKayaker
Thank you for your most civil reply.
God bless you and yours.
38 posted on 11/02/2014 4:06:26 PM PST by cloudmountain
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To: verga
For the last several weeks I give them one response (if that many) and then just tell them "you are wrong" and move on.

Good advice. That IS the best thing.
Thank you.

39 posted on 11/02/2014 4:09:46 PM PST by cloudmountain
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To: Slyfox
So, not just Catholics pray for the dead. It is an Jewish custom dating back to the Torah.

Amen to that. I didn't know that.

40 posted on 11/02/2014 4:12:09 PM PST by cloudmountain
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