Posted on 06/06/2014 5:24:13 PM PDT by ebb tide
Technically Muslims weren’t mentioned.
Not everyone in Israel is as enthralled with the pope however; Rabbi Yonatan Shtenzel told Arutz Sheva on Wednesday that the pope knows where Jewish vessels and treasures from the Second Temple are kept in the Vatican, but is hiding them in an act of "diplomatic evasion."
Abbas and Peres are expected to be accompanied by imams and rabbis and the Ecumenical Patriarch of Constantinople Bartholomew I, a top Orthodox leader, could also join in.
The meeting follows a controversial visit from the Vatican, which included a questionable set of political decisions which give legitimacy to the PA, as well as outrage over a rumored deal to transfer King David's Tomb to the Vatican - either in part or in whole.
Good luck trying to get gold and riches from the Vatican vaults.
It’s actually more likely that the First Temple vessels are still hidden around Jerusalem and those would be the ones used in a rebuilt Temple. Probably new ones would be required. Such items would get heavy use.
There would have to be an explanation for where Second Temple items were held through the upheavals in Rome until the Church became a formidable institution, which wasn’t until hundreds of years after the destruction of the Temple.
He just had a visit with your pope as well...
I guess if he couldn't get Moses's bones, he'll have to settle for David's...
Confirmed:http://www.news.va/en/news/presidents-peres-and-abbas-to-join-pope-francis-in http://www.timesofisrael.com/peres-abbas-to-attend-vatican-prayer-event-sunday/
The time is getting crazy close.
Yes it is...
There are stories out there where the Vatican is either working on moving to Jerusalem or putting a branch office there where the pope can reside in Jerusalem...
That may be more palatable to the Jews, to keep the throne of David in Jerusalem...And of course we know that's where it will stay...
Note that many Catholic Marian attributions much parallel even that of Christ:
For in the the Catholic quest to almost deify Mary, it is taught by Catholics*,
as Christ was sinless, so Mary was;
as the Lord remained a virgin, so Mary;
as Christ was called the Son of God, indicating ontological oneness, so Mary is called the Mother of God (which easily infers the same, and is not the language of Scripture);
as the emphasis is upon Christ as the Creator through whom God (the Father) made all things, including Mary, so it is emphasized that uniquely “to her, Jesus owes His Precious Blood,” shed for the salvation of mankind, (the logic behind which can lead back to Eve);
as Catholics (adding error to error) believe Christ gave His actual flesh and blood to be eaten, so it is emphasized that Mary gave Him this, being fashioned out of Mary's pure blood and even being “kneaded with the admixture of her virginal milk,” so that she can say, "Come and eat my bread, drink the wine I have prepared" (Prov. 9:5);
as Scripture declares that Christ suffered for our sins, so Mary is said to have done so also;
as Christ saves us from the condemnation and death resulting from the fault of Adam, so it is taught that man was condemned through the fault of Eve, the root of death, but that we are saved through the merits of Mary; who was the source of life for everyone.
as the Lord was bodily ascended into Heaven, so Mary also was;
as Christ is given all power in heaven and in earth, so Mary is “surpassing in power all the angels and saints in Heaven.”
as Christ is the King of the saints and over all kings, (Rv. 15:3; 17:14; 19:16) so Mary is made Queen of Heaven and the greatest saint, and that “Next to God, she deserves the highest praise;”
as the Father made Christ Lord over all things, so Mary is enthroned (all other believers have to wait for their crowns) and exalted by the Lord as Queen over all things;
as Christ is highly exalted above all under the Father, so Mary is declared to be the greatest saint of all, and as having a certain equality with the Heavenly Father;
as Christ ever liveth to make intercession for the saints, so is Mary said to do so;
as all things come from the Father through the Son, so Mary is made to be the dispenser of all grace;
as Christ is given all power on Heaven and on earth, Mary is said to have (showing some restraint) “almost unlimited power;”
as no man comes to the Father but through the Son, so it is taught that no one can come to the Son except through Mary in Heaven;
and as the Lord called souls to come to Him to be given life and salvation, so (in misappropriation of the words of Scripture) it is said of Mary, “He that shall find me shall find life, and shall have salvation from the Lord;” “that through her are obtained every hope, every grace, and all salvation. For this is His will, that we obtain everything through Mary.”
And as Christ is given many titles of honor, so Mary also is, except that she is honored by Catholics with more titles than they give to the Lord Himself!
Mary was a holy, virtuous instrument of God, but of whom Scripture says relatively little, while holy fear ought to restrain ascribing positions, honor, glory and powers to a mortal that God has not revealed as given to them, and or are only revealed as being possessed by God Himself. But like as the Israelites made an instrument of God an object of worship, (Num. 21:8,9; 2Kg. 18:4) Catholics have magnified Mary far beyond what is written and warranted and even allowed, based on what is in Scripture.
In addition, although (technically) Mary is not to be worshiped in the same sense that God is worshiped, yet the distinctions between devotion to Mary and the worship of God are quite fine, and much due to the psychological appeal of a heavenly mother (especially among those for whom Scripture is not supreme), then the historical practice of Catholics has been to exalt Mary above that which is written. As the Catholic Encyclopedia states, "By the sixteenth century, as evidenced by the spiritual struggles of the Reformers, the image of Mary had largely eclipsed the centrality of Jesus Christ in the life of believers." (Robert C. Broderick, ed., The Catholic Encyclopedia, revised and updated; NY: Thomas Nelson Publishers, 1987, pp.32,33)
The practice of praying to departed saints and Mary was one that developed, helped by pagan influences, for Scripture provides no example of any believer praying to anyone in Heaven by the Lord, and reveals that doing otherwise was a practice of pagans, including to the “Queen of Heaven.” (Jer. 44:17,18,19,25). The Catholic Encyclopedia admits that a further reinforcement of Marian devotion, “was derived from the cult of the angels, which, while pre-Christian in its origin, was heartily embraced by the faithful of the sub-Apostolic age. It seems to have been only as a sequel of some such development that men turned to implore the intercession of the Blessed Virgin. This at least is the common opinion among scholars, though it would perhaps be dangerous to speak too positively. Evidence regarding the popular practice of the early centuries is almost entirely lacking...,” (Catholic Encyclopedia > Devotion to the Blessed Virgin Mary) Yet, as expected, it imagines this practice came from the apostles and NT church, but which never exampled or instructed it, and instead showed that the believer has immediate access to God in the Divine Christ, (Heb. 10:19), who is the all sufficient and immediate intercessor between God (the Father) and man. (Heb. 2:17,18; 4:15,16) To the glory of God
Only when infallibly speaking according to Rome's infallibly defined scope and subject-based criteria. And RCs are enjoined to provide implicit assent of faith to infallible teachings, religious assent of mind and will to even non-infallible teachings, which seem to be the majority.
But even then RCs cannot be sure how many infallible papal pronouncements in all there are, as well as those by the bishops in union with the pope (who does not need their sanction). And both what magisterial level a teaching fall under as well as the meanings of each can be subject to some degree of interpretation.
This all is based upon the unScriptural premise that an assuredly (if conditionally) infallible magisterium is essential for determination and assurance of Truth (including writings and men being of God) and to fulfill promises of Divine presence, providence of Truth, and preservation of faith, and authority. (Jn. 14:16,26; 15:26; 16:13; Mt. 16:18; Lk. 10:16)
And that being the historical instruments and stewards of Divine revelation (oral and written) means that Rome is that assuredly infallible magisterium. Thus those who dissent from the latter are held as being in rebellion to God, even though under this model the NT would be invalidated, which did not begin under this premise of perpetual assured magisterial veracity, but upon Scriptural substantiation in word and in power. To the glory of God.
All of which is probably more than you wanted to know.
Could you post this Bible verse? I find this interesting.
"Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?" (2 Corinthians 6:14)
"Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you," (2 Corinthians 6:17)
Actually, you leave such a church for another pasture, or the church leaves the denom that supports this, or treats prosodomite abortionists as members in life and in death. As Rome does, showing her faith by her works, but where can a RC except to sects or schism?
Question is whether the bastard is disqualified of ancestral headship. And hence confusion reigns.
Ishmael was the son of Abram not Abraham. Sara did not trust YHvH and gave HaGar (the foreigner) to Abram. But YHvH breathed His breath (Ru'ach) (the letter heh) into him and A detailed reading of the WORD will yield:
shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach
changed Abram's name, because he became righteous.
YHvH also changed Sara to Sarah by breathing His Breath into her,
Sarah then conceived Isaac.
Abraham's only son.
Muslims won’t be satisfied until the Vatican is turned into a mosque.
I concur....Isaac was Abraham's only son. If I recall he is referred to that way three times in Genesis.
Pretty clear on this one.
It starts every Sura of the Quran It is the bismillah.
shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach
except the ninth Sura.
Nicely done.
OBTW Allah is not the Elohim of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. This has dedicated the Roman "church"
shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach
to haSatan since it was first written and spoken.
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