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After Pastor's Son Comes Out, Southern Baptist Church Breaks With Denomination on Homosexuality
Christian Post ^ | 06/06/2014 | Morgan Lee

Posted on 06/06/2014 8:50:30 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: apillar

I’ve seen just that thing. A parent will justify their child doing just about anything. There are a number of churches who do not count it as stealing if it is a “poor” person stealing from a “rich” person. They see it as a net good.


41 posted on 06/06/2014 9:49:23 AM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: SeekAndFind

“Not many of you should become teachers, my brothers, for you know that we who teach will be judged with greater strictness. For we all stumble in many ways.” —James 3:1-2

“Do your best to present yourself to God as one approved, a worker who has no need to be ashamed, rightly handling the word of truth.” —2 Timothy 2:15

“Jesus answered him, “Are you the teacher of Israel and yet you do not understand these things?” —John 3:10

“A disciple is not above his teacher, nor a servant above his master.”
— Matthew 10:24

“You then who teach others, do you not teach yourself? While you preach against stealing, do you steal?” —Romans 2:21

“All Scripture is breathed out by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness...” — 2 Timothy 3:16


42 posted on 06/06/2014 9:49:41 AM PDT by Albion Wilde ("The commenters are plenty but the thinkers are few." -- Walid Shoebat)
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To: SeekAndFind

Why would he have engaged in reparative therapy? That’s for the people who have the problem, not the pastor?

Remember, having homosexual feelings is not a sin, in the sense that all of us sin, and all of us have a fallen nature that makes us desire various sinful actions.

Our calling is not to engage in sinful acts. You know, there was a time when we actually married people off to strangers, and somehow they learned to “love” each other after time. People have a remarkable ability to become attached to those who they are not immediately drawn to sexually.

But nowadays, we have been trained by culture that we are supposed to “marry” the person who makes us “hot”, who we can’t resist.

But we are called to resist all sorts of things. If you can’t find a woman who will have sex with you, you are expected not to have sex, so why is it so hard to live by the rule that even if you are sexually attracted to another guy, that doesn’t mean you HAVE to become sexually active with them.

I imagine if the son was not gay, but had decided he really loved a girl who was not a christian, and who didn’t accept marriage, that this guy would have eventually decided that the church view on unequal yoking and on being married before sex were also no longer operative.

Because nobody wants to think their kids are living in sin. But sadly, too many pastors have decided that God is powerless in our lives anymore, and therefore simply can’t believe that God would have the capability to give the grace necessary for people to bear the burdens they are given.

One can only imagine how St. Paul would be treated in the modern society.


43 posted on 06/06/2014 9:49:45 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: SeekAndFind

Matthew 10:37. Believe me, from personal experience it’s not easy, but Jesus expects no less.


44 posted on 06/06/2014 9:49:50 AM PDT by chajin ("There is no other name under heaven given among people by which we must be saved." Acts 4:12)
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To: CharlesWayneCT
One can only imagine how St. Paul would be treated in the modern society.

The same way he was in his own. Times change, humanity never changes.

45 posted on 06/06/2014 9:51:33 AM PDT by chajin ("There is no other name under heaven given among people by which we must be saved." Acts 4:12)
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To: FourtySeven; P-Marlowe; SeekAndFind; xzins
Either we have this whole thing all wrong, or the world really is becoming as Satanic and apathetic as is foretold for the end times.

There is NO WAY that we've had it wrong for six thousand years.

Sexual relations exist for reproduction, all pleasure derived from sex is secondary. As there can be no reproduction from homosexual activities, it can only follow that God didn't intend for them. Despite the lefts wishes to the contrary, humans are the only creatures that engage is such unnatural acts and that is because we alone have free will and use it to defy God.

46 posted on 06/06/2014 9:52:35 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee
humans are the only creatures that engage in such unnatural acts

You haven't met my neighbor's dog.

47 posted on 06/06/2014 9:57:06 AM PDT by Genoa (Starve the beast.)
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To: FourtySeven

Homosexuality has been a problem since the beginning. What’s different now? For one, the media is composed of the extreme left wing. Also, much of this is a result of our public schools, where the children of this country are brainwashed for 12 or more years, years that are crucial in their development.


48 posted on 06/06/2014 9:58:03 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Saltmeat
Once the rudder has been removed, the vessel is at the mercy of the winds and the currents.

The rudder was removed in 1948 when the Supreme Court elevated the rights of atheists to the same level as those who believe that we are a nation Under God. From that point onward, all sorts of moral relativism has rotted the body politic from the inside. And because Protestantism was the mainstream in America, but has no central teaching authority as does Catholicism, the largest old time Protestant churches -- Episcopal, Lutheran, Presbyterian, Methodist -- have been corroded by the influence of a relativistic society, to the point of becoming agents of the devil. Their founders are spinning in their graves. It's mainly offshoot congregations that are holding to the Bible now.

49 posted on 06/06/2014 10:01:11 AM PDT by Albion Wilde ("The commenters are plenty but the thinkers are few." -- Walid Shoebat)
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To: HMS Surprise
Preachers don’t read the Bible anymore, so would they even know?

Or put another way, 'many preachers today no longer preach the word of GOD'. They seem to make it up as they go along depending on the mood of their following and so long as it get's the coffers filled.

50 posted on 06/06/2014 10:04:26 AM PDT by Ron H. (Impeach, Indict & Imprison the lying thieving criminal Barak Hussein Obama.)
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To: SeekAndFind

More accurately that church has broken from sound biblical doctrine.


51 posted on 06/06/2014 10:05:30 AM PDT by ealgeone (obama, borderof)
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To: Salvation
Cortez said his “eyes became open to the injustice that the church has wrought”

His ego cannot accept that he, as a father, is failing his son. He had no words of scripture to relieve his own anxiety or to help his boy. So he blames the church for being mean! and tries to change the outward world to excuse his inner turmoil. What pitiful immaturity.

52 posted on 06/06/2014 10:06:45 AM PDT by Albion Wilde ("The commenters are plenty but the thinkers are few." -- Walid Shoebat)
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To: Albion Wilde

To my understanding a lot of those mainstream Protestant groups are only really having these problems in the euro/north American west, at least so far.

Freegards


53 posted on 06/06/2014 10:08:05 AM PDT by Ransomed
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To: PGR88
Because there is no Authority. He now believes God accepts homosexual behavior. Who is to tell this pastor what he teaches is wrong?

That is the two-edged sword of Protestantism. On the good side, one must work out one's knowledge of the Word and one's certainty about repentance and salvation in a deeply personal way, which creates in believers a solid, intimate relationship with God. On the downside, with weak persons we see the example in this article, and many similar calumnies.

54 posted on 06/06/2014 10:11:43 AM PDT by Albion Wilde ("The commenters are plenty but the thinkers are few." -- Walid Shoebat)
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To: Ransomed
problems in the euro/north American west

An interesting observation. The developing world has its advantages: (1) a more intuitive willingness to accept the supernatural, and (2) no western legacy of self-indulgence to overcome.

55 posted on 06/06/2014 10:13:19 AM PDT by Genoa (Starve the beast.)
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To: SeekAndFind

This cowardly wolf will lose his soul if he doesn’t repent. He is also responsible for the souls of others, which is even worse.
If he had any morals or backbone he would have stepped down before bringing this evil insanity upon his congregation.


56 posted on 06/06/2014 10:13:50 AM PDT by vpintheak (I will not comply!)
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To: impimp
The Truth may only be found in the Catholic Church.

A consistent interpretation of Biblical Truth may be found in the Catholic Church; but even the Catholic Church is subject to 1 Corinthians 13:12. There is no patent or trademark on Truth.

57 posted on 06/06/2014 10:14:44 AM PDT by Albion Wilde ("The commenters are plenty but the thinkers are few." -- Walid Shoebat)
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To: Celtic Conservative
Quit now so your congregation can find someone more in line with scripture.

On an earlier thread about this guy, the article said that many of his congregation got up and left when he took this left turn. So the ones who remain agree with him and are complacent in this self-righteous point of view. The threshing floor...

58 posted on 06/06/2014 10:17:50 AM PDT by Albion Wilde ("The commenters are plenty but the thinkers are few." -- Walid Shoebat)
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To: afsnco

Agreed. People are more married to their pastor and church society than to God.


59 posted on 06/06/2014 10:20:27 AM PDT by punknpuss
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To: wagglebee
Despite the lefts wishes to the contrary, humans are the only creatures that engage is such unnatural acts and that is because we alone have free will and use it to defy God.

Not exactly true. Many animal species will hump their same-sex companions under stressful circumstances -- dogs, cows (I've even seen cats hump objects or humans), or even collectively as a variety of biological adaptation, like the bonobo monkeys. But it is because humans have the total package -- opposable thumbs, dominion over animals, technology, literature, folklore, libraries, virtual communications -- that such disgraceful inventions as "gay marriage" and "gay parenting" can take place. We are the ones who have eaten from the tree of knowlege.

60 posted on 06/06/2014 10:33:26 AM PDT by Albion Wilde ("The commenters are plenty but the thinkers are few." -- Walid Shoebat)
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