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April 3, AD 33
First Things ^ | April 3, 2014 | by Andreas J. Köstenberger and Justin Taylor

Posted on 04/03/2014 4:52:36 PM PDT by Rashputin

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To: Errant
>>>It's not a "holier-than-thou attitude".<<<

Then why not use the name "Jesus" like a normal person? Do you think that Jesus really cares that you refer to him as Yazoo, or whatever you call him? He is the Lord of the universe. He is not vain.

>>>I'm trying to understand why some "seem" to feel a need that they are no longer sinners.<<<

I've met a few like that. I personally do not believe we can understand, being mere mortals.

>>>It's pretty obvious that we all "miss the mark" of being righteousness in the example that has been set, and that "we all" need to "work" on that problem - no?<<<

That is what the scripture says. Thankfully, Jesus gives us a way out, in that he is the propitiation for our sins (1 John 2:2.)

Philip

201 posted on 04/10/2014 1:17:36 PM PDT by PhilipFreneau
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To: Errant

To: UriÂ’el-2012

You are demanding Lawlessness.

no, Christians are demanded to follow the law of love, not the Torah.

but then again, a CHRISTIAN would realize that.

this is my post #115 responding to the charge of demanding lawlessness.


202 posted on 04/10/2014 1:21:00 PM PDT by one Lord one faith one baptism
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To: one Lord one faith one baptism; editor-surveyor; PhilipFreneau
the cultist who claims we need to be “Torah observant” today, can not/will not

Again I recommend a Reading Comprehension course:

No where have I stated that one needs to be Torah observant.

So your claim is either a reading error or a comprehension error.

Others would say you just make things up like a democrat and repeat a lie.

But I think you are just a little dyslexic.


203 posted on 04/10/2014 1:21:15 PM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your teaching is my delight.)
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To: redleghunter; one Lord one faith one baptism; roamer_1; Errant; daniel1212; metmom; boatbums
>> “Now whether or not one observes festivals, new moons, certain days etc. or not...”

Where did anyone get the idea that it was optional?

Certainly not from scripture!

Revelation 3:

[2] Be watchful, and strengthen the things which remain, that are ready to die: for I have not found thy works perfect before God.
[3] Remember therefore how thou hast received and heard, and hold fast, and repent. If therefore thou shalt not watch, I will come on thee as a thief, and thou shalt not know what hour I will come upon thee.


How does anyone miss this? - He told the Thessalonians that because they observed the times and seasons that Yeshua wouldn't come on them as a thief.

Don't we prefer to be Thessalonians? - The alternative is grim, as the above verse makes plain.

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204 posted on 04/10/2014 1:22:15 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: one Lord one faith one baptism

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205 posted on 04/10/2014 1:23:01 PM PDT by Errant (Surround yourself with intelligent and industrious people who help and support each other.)
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To: one Lord one faith one baptism

Why don’t you read what I wrote instead of making it up as you go?


206 posted on 04/10/2014 1:23:44 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: one Lord one faith one baptism; Errant

>> “Christians are demanded to follow the law of love, not the Torah.” <<

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Double talk!- Torah is the law of love.

Yeshua made it plain that all of the Torah hung on love.
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207 posted on 04/10/2014 1:26:31 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: UriÂ’el-2012

No where have I stated that one needs to be Torah observant.

ooookay, so does that mean that parents that wish to do the will of God and obey His Word, can ignore the command found in Genesis 17?

after all, it seems to bind the descendants of Abraham, which Paul tells us in Galatians 3:29 that if we are Christ’s, we are Abraham’s offspring.


208 posted on 04/10/2014 1:28:23 PM PDT by one Lord one faith one baptism
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To: PhilipFreneau
Then why not use the name "Jesus" like a normal person?

I guess that's because I'm not "a normal person" Philip. :-)

I'm doing my best to follow the teachings of Yeshua (though I admit that I fail miserably), whereas most in this world, seem to want to do the opposite.

About the only good thing I can honestly say about myself is that I keep trying.

209 posted on 04/10/2014 1:30:13 PM PDT by Errant (Surround yourself with intelligent and industrious people who help and support each other.)
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To: editor-surveyor

double talk?

King James Bible
And this is his commandment, That we should believe on the name of his Son Jesus Christ, and love one another, as he gave us commandment.
1 John3:23

if the law of love is the Torah, why did Jesus Christ give us this NEW COMMANDMENT? after all, everyone had the Torah when this commandment was given.


210 posted on 04/10/2014 1:32:17 PM PDT by one Lord one faith one baptism
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To: one Lord one faith one baptism

>> “my pagan Bible says in Christ there is neither Jew nor Greek.” <<

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Your pagan bible also says that only doers of the law will be justified.

So, Jew or whatever, if you will be justified, it will be by his terms.


211 posted on 04/10/2014 1:35:16 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: PhilipFreneau

>> “Then why not use the name “Jesus” like a normal person?” <<

Because “Jesus” is not his name, and respect requires using his name.
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212 posted on 04/10/2014 1:36:34 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: one Lord one faith one baptism; Errant
To: UriÂ’el-2012

You are demanding Lawlessness.

no, Christians are demanded to follow the law of love, not the Torah.

but then again, a CHRISTIAN would realize that.

this is my post #115 responding to the charge of demanding lawlessness.

I think you are a NooB

If you are not a NooB, You are rude.

When you cite a person's name one should ping then.


213 posted on 04/10/2014 1:38:26 PM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your teaching is my delight.)
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To: one Lord one faith one baptism

There you go again, posting a snippet to reverse the meaning of the chapter.

That was no new commandment as the chapter makes abundantly clear.


214 posted on 04/10/2014 1:38:48 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor

my name in spanish is tomas, in english it’s thomas.

if i go to Spain, i am called Tomas, should i look at that as disrespect and demand they refer to me as thomas? or should i realize the people are going to call me by my name in THEIR LANGUAGE?


215 posted on 04/10/2014 1:42:04 PM PDT by one Lord one faith one baptism
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To: UriÂ’el-2012

When you cite a person’s name one should ping then

You are correct, i apologize for the oversight and thank you for pointing this out to me. i will make every effort to do better in the future.


216 posted on 04/10/2014 1:44:02 PM PDT by one Lord one faith one baptism
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To: one Lord one faith one baptism

Yeshua’s name in Hebrew is Yeshua, in english its Yeshua.


217 posted on 04/10/2014 1:47:40 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor
>>>Because “Jesus” is not his name, and respect requires using his name<<<

He seems to think his name is Jesus. People have called on the name of Jesus throughout the centuries, and Christianity has spread. One would think that if they were using a disrespectful name, Jesus would not have listened to their prayers, and would have put a stop to what they were doing?

Besides, Jesus did not say, "If you love me call me Yazoo." He said, if you love me, keep my commandments (John 14:15.)

Philip

218 posted on 04/10/2014 1:48:46 PM PDT by PhilipFreneau
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To: editor-surveyor

John 13:34 A new commandment I give unto you, That you love one another; as I have loved you, that you also love one another.

That was no new commandment..........

hmm, who to believe???


219 posted on 04/10/2014 1:48:58 PM PDT by one Lord one faith one baptism
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To: editor-surveyor; PhilipFreneau

Yeshua’s name in Hebrew is Yeshua, in english its Yeshua.

i typed “yeshua” in dictionary.com and got no results. it’s not an english name. we speak english.


220 posted on 04/10/2014 1:52:41 PM PDT by one Lord one faith one baptism
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