Posted on 04/03/2014 4:52:36 PM PDT by Rashputin
The entirety of the gospel chapters dealing with the crucifixion are the reference.
They totally demolish your comic book position.
His “exegesis” is really eisegisis.
Had he gone from the text rather than injecting a false interpretation into the text, we wouldn’t be having this exchange.
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Irresponsible comments like these are why it is impossible to have an intelligent conversation with non-Catholics.
Are there any compiled by Catholic Authors?
Irresponsible comments like these are why it is impossible to have an intelligent conversation with non-Catholics.
Perhaps you are unfamilar with history. Seek YHvH in His WORD. Please explain how a statement of history
shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach
is an irresponsible comment.
Go to the Encyclopedia Britannica find out when the Catholic Church was started. They are certainly no friend of the Catholic Church and are one of the most reliable secular sources out there.
What is in YHvH's WORD ? That is not proof.
shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach
Exegesis?
Exegesis?
how can one have a meaningful discussion on the Scriptures with someone that:
doesn’t realize that according to the Scriptures any time days are counted, the day of the event is day one?
doesn’t realize according to the Scriptures, any part of a day is counted as a whole day?
thinks that the Apostles were Torah observant?
thinks that Constantine started the “Roman” Church?
it would be like trying to discuss history with someone that thinks the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor in 1941, i guess you could have the discussion, it’s just wouldn’t be very fruitful!
No, when the event is the fulfillment of the sign of the prophet Jonah, the days are full from sunset to sunset.
The gospels prove that to be true. When you leave out the normal day between the Sabbaths, men of God become like you, Sabbath breakers, and defilers of Yehova’s Passover.
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No, they are compiled by true men of God.
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doesn’t realize that according to the Scriptures any time days are counted, the day of the event is day one?
doesn’t realize according to the Scriptures, any part of a day is counted as a whole day?
thinks that the Apostles were Torah observant?
thinks that Constantine started the “Roman” Church?
These are methods of the Evil One. The first response is meaningless; see Genesis one The second is without foundation in the WORD. Yah'shua was/is Torah observant. No one else but Constantine created the Roman "church" In the typical manner of your sect
shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach
Roman's change the subject and ridicule.
So were His Apostles.
They accepted Yah'shua as the Mashiach,
Therefore they were messianic Jews
He is the WORD NO?
Amen !shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach
observing the Torah after Jesus went to the cross is a denial of Jesus fulfilling the law and salvation by grace.
like i said, just like the Germans bombing Pearl Harbor...
If you were familiar with the WORD,You are demanding Lawlessness.
shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach
salvation by Grace has always been available.
You are demanding Lawlessness.
no, Christians are demanded to follow the law of love, not the Torah.
but then again, a CHRISTIAN would realize that.
You are absolutely correct. What is truly puzzling is the motive of the Torah "worshippers." There is nothing in the Torah that cannot be found in Matthew 7:12:
"Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you, do ye even so to them: for this is the law and the prophets." (Mat 7:12 KJV)
And Moses, himself, warned us to follow Christ, not Moses;
"For Moses truly said unto the fathers, A prophet shall the Lord your God raise up unto you of your brethren, like unto me; him shall ye hear in all things whatsoever he shall say unto you. And it shall come to pass, that every soul, which will not hear that prophet, shall be destroyed from among the people." (Acts 3:22-23 KJV)
Jesus and the apostles told us, in many ways, that believers in Christ are not subject to any ordinance, of any kind, except for His commandment to love one another. These are a few examples of how Christ abolished ordinances:
"That at that time ye were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world: But now in Christ Jesus ye who sometimes were far off are made nigh by the blood of Christ. For he is our peace, who hath made both one, and hath broken down the middle wall of partition between us; Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances; for to make in himself of twain one new man, so making peace;" (Eph 2:12-15 KJV)
"And you, being dead in your sins and the uncircumcision of your flesh, hath he quickened together with him, having forgiven you all trespasses; Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross; And having spoiled principalities and powers, he made a shew of them openly, triumphing over them in it. Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days: Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ." (Col 2:13-17 KJV)
"Wherefore if ye be dead with Christ from the rudiments of the world, why, as though living in the world, are ye subject to ordinances, (Touch not; taste not; handle not; Which all are to perish with the using;) after the commandments and doctrines of men?" (Col 2:20-22 KJV)
"Whereof the Holy Ghost also is a witness to us: for after that he had said before, This is the covenant that I will make with them after those days, saith the Lord, I will put my laws into their hearts, and in their minds will I write them; And their sins and iniquities will I remember no more. Now where remission of these is, there is no more offering for sin." (Heb 10:15-18 KJV)
Philip
Our friend may also want to read Romans 7, it’s tough to follow the law when you have died to it through the Body of Christ.
That means you are rejecting Yah'shua. There has been anti-semitism in the Roman "church" Sad as Yah'shua was/is/will always be a Jewish King. Then you are rejecting the WORD of YHvH.
shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach
since Nicea in 325CE.
>>>shalom b’SHEM Yah’shua HaMashiach<<<
Would you please write in English? I don’t understand jibberish.
Philip
So they are not scriptural and pretty much the opinions of prots. I will save my money.
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