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Pope Francis, with retired Pope Benedict present, creates new cardinals
cns ^ | February 23, 2014 | Cindy Wooden

Posted on 02/22/2014 11:57:28 AM PST by NYer

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To: ebb tide

I have no idea why Kaspar was chosen to speak. I do know that not one thing pertaining to faith and morals is changing in the Catholic Church and if Kaspar wants divorced people to receive communion, they will........when they they have divorce ANNULED!


81 posted on 02/22/2014 9:12:04 PM PST by NKP_Vet ("No damn man kills me and lives" ~ Lt Gen Nathan Bedford Forrest)
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To: NKP_Vet
Don't you mean, "If they get annulled"? Rather then "when"?

Or do you believe in paying 20 bucks to get a document rubber stamped? With that type of income, maybe then the Vatican will lift its wage and hiring freeze.

82 posted on 02/22/2014 9:21:13 PM PST by ebb tide
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To: NKP_Vet

“Then you apparently never heard of Jews.”

And that’s just the point... The Church isn’t Jewish.


83 posted on 02/22/2014 9:30:00 PM PST by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: NKP_Vet

Divorced people can receive communion now. I think you meant divorced and remarried without a degree of nullity.


84 posted on 02/23/2014 5:00:11 AM PST by Not gonna take it anymore (If Obama were twice as smart as he is, he would be a wit)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

Jesus was a Jew.


85 posted on 02/23/2014 7:16:54 AM PST by NKP_Vet ("No damn man kills me and lives" ~ Lt Gen Nathan Bedford Forrest)
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To: ebb tide

I think you;’re a Catholic. If that’s the case why do you constantly bash the Catholic Church. Your postings are identical to a Catholic-hating protestant.


86 posted on 02/23/2014 7:18:33 AM PST by NKP_Vet ("No damn man kills me and lives" ~ Lt Gen Nathan Bedford Forrest)
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To: Not gonna take it anymore

“I think you meant divorced and remarried without a degree of nullity”.

Yes. Thanks for correcting me.


87 posted on 02/23/2014 7:19:31 AM PST by NKP_Vet ("No damn man kills me and lives" ~ Lt Gen Nathan Bedford Forrest)
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To: NKP_Vet

I fear for you based on your posts. They demonstrate a lack of Scriptural knowledge.


88 posted on 02/23/2014 7:22:32 AM PST by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: ebb tide

The Cardinal is an office, ordination has nothing to do with it. Although current canon law does limit it to ordained men, there have been lay Cardinals in the past. So it is possible to make a woman a Cardinal. Remember, the Pope can always dispense with Canon Law.

NOTE: JP2 asked Mother Teresa did she want to become a Cardinal. She declined.


89 posted on 02/23/2014 7:26:12 AM PST by NKP_Vet ("No damn man kills me and lives" ~ Lt Gen Nathan Bedford Forrest)
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To: NKP_Vet

What part of “men” do you not understand? I even highlighted it for you.


90 posted on 02/23/2014 7:27:49 AM PST by ebb tide
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To: NKP_Vet
Remember, the Pope can always dispense with Canon Law.

Please make up you mind; you earlier said Church doctrine cannot change.

91 posted on 02/23/2014 7:29:53 AM PST by ebb tide
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To: ebb tide

Like I said the Pope can do anything he feels like doing.
Canon Law is kinda irrelevant to this whole thing, because only the Pope can name a Cardinal, and the Pope is the only person that Canon Law is not binding upon. The Pope is not subject to Canon Law (or at least not the parts that are not grounded in Doctrine). For Popes, Canon Law is more like a suggestion. That’s what we mean when we call him the Supreme Pontiff. The idea that Canon Law could actually forbid the Pope from doing anything is absurd.

And, of course, Canon Law itself is a brand-new concept for the Church. Prior to 1917, there was no such thing.


92 posted on 02/23/2014 7:30:56 AM PST by NKP_Vet ("No damn man kills me and lives" ~ Lt Gen Nathan Bedford Forrest)
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To: ebb tide

It’s not Church Doctrine, it’s law and the law can be changed if the Pope so desires.


93 posted on 02/23/2014 7:33:38 AM PST by NKP_Vet ("No damn man kills me and lives" ~ Lt Gen Nathan Bedford Forrest)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

Oh I know, only protestants know scripture.


94 posted on 02/23/2014 7:35:33 AM PST by NKP_Vet ("No damn man kills me and lives" ~ Lt Gen Nathan Bedford Forrest)
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To: NKP_Vet

Look up “doctrine”.


95 posted on 02/23/2014 7:37:51 AM PST by ebb tide
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To: NKP_Vet
Like I said the Pope can do anything he feels like doing.

So the pope could approve homo marriages, polygamy, abortion, etc. Right? He could declare there is salvation outside the Church. He could walk on water and part the Red Sea.

96 posted on 02/23/2014 7:46:09 AM PST by ebb tide
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To: NKP_Vet
For Popes, Canon Law is more like a suggestion.

What an absurd thing to say! Why even have canon laws?

97 posted on 02/23/2014 7:53:18 AM PST by ebb tide
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To: NKP_Vet
It’s not Church Doctrine, it’s law and the law can be changed if the Pope so desires.

The Ten Commandments are laws. Can the pope change those? You said he could do anything he wants to.

98 posted on 02/23/2014 8:33:11 AM PST by ebb tide
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To: NKP_Vet
And, of course, Canon Law itself is a brand-new concept for the Church. Prior to 1917, there was no such thing.

The above statement is false.

99 posted on 02/23/2014 8:35:41 AM PST by ebb tide
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To: ebb tide

You’re beating a dead horse. This new thing introduced in 1917, Canon Law as we are referring to it, is actually pretty much the will and whim of the Pope in terms of how he wants things run. He can change any part, rewrite the whole thing, discard whatever he doesn’t like or add stuff. I believe he is supposed to listen to whatever groups of Bishops or other persons as may have standing or interest. But he doesn’t have to do what they want, he does whatever he pleases.


100 posted on 02/23/2014 8:38:16 AM PST by NKP_Vet ("No damn man kills me and lives" ~ Lt Gen Nathan Bedford Forrest)
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