Posted on 02/12/2014 5:20:56 PM PST by NKP_Vet
Clearly.
Not obvious at all....word of mouth leaves open any and all manner of change according to whatever one might want to determine....thus enters “traditions of men”....and generally all manner of false religions and groups. As it has been throughout History.
Best to stay with Gods Word as the ultimate authority and “let” Him teach you what He wants you to know as His Spirit teaches. ..Just as He asks that we do.
“Not obvious at all....word of mouth leaves open any and all manner of change according to whatever one might want to determine....thus enters traditions of men....and generally all manner of false religions and groups. As it has been throughout History”
Been that way since before the Bible came long. There were Christians before there was the written word. Tradition (word of mouth) existed hundreds of years before the written word. Why protestants are so stubborn about admitting the obvious is lunacy.
You wrote...Free at last, free at last, free at last, free at last, once I was a heretic, NOW IM FREE AT LAST!
You know best what you were or are, but as someone looking at your posts from the outside, it appears they contain an unending heretical content.
“In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The same was in the beginning with God. All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. In him was life; and the life was the light of men. John 1:1-4 “
TRADITION.
My personal favorite.
"I will not eat the cookie, I will consume it with my mouth."
“it appears they contain an unending heretical content”
That’s because you consider the first Christians, i.e., Catholics, heretics.
May God bless you, dear NKP_Vet.
They seem to forget that the Bible itself is a tradition. There never was a divinely inspired table of contents written down until the Catholics decided what it was.
“Thats because you consider the first Christians, i.e., Catholics, heretics.”
No, it’s just the heresy that is read back into the Bible via eisogesis.
“There never was a divinely inspired table of contents written down until the Catholics decided what it was”.
AMEN.
And here we have the fable of the poor, weak God, who wasn't powerful or sovereign. He needed the big powerful "Catholics" to decide the table of contents of His Holy Word.
The truth is quite different. God SOVEREIGNLY and POWERFULLY worked through history, through men he chose and when men wouldn't listen, though Baalam's ass, to speak, to inspire, to put on parchment HIS WORDS, to PRESERVE and to COLLECT HIS INSPIRED WRITINGS.
Baalams ass, however, never bragged about God using him. There is a lesson there for Catholics on FR. The ass never claimed to be an Infallible Ass (like FRomans) or claimed credit, as if the words were his (like FRomans), as if God depended on him (like FRomans do)
... he accepted being used by God with humility, knowing God could make stones cry out, instead of trying to put himself in God's position, like FRomans.
If only we'd see more of that around here.
Funny stuff, you see about getting booked on Kimmel, Fallon, or Letterman. As I have said before; Matthew 7:6
It is a gross sin of pride to claim credit that belongs to God alone. We see it here every week on FR.
It is deplorable theft.
Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you. (Matthew 7:6)
That is just one more verse wrested in order to respond to the utter lack of proof for PTDS .
But have renounced the hidden things of dishonesty, not walking in craftiness, nor handling the word of God deceitfully; but by manifestation of the truth commending ourselves to every man's conscience in the sight of God. (2 Corinthians 4:2)
That is amazing. Further exalting Rome above that which is written, it appears that no Divinely inspired writings were Divinely inspired until Rome said so, and no one could be sure if anything was the word of God, and what the magisterium says is Divinely inspired. The man is more Catholic than his church!
I cant remember the direct quote from my priest, but he quoted something from St. Paul that is not in any Gospel and gives Jesus the credit for saying it. Ill have to find out exactly what it is.
.....but he quoted something from attributed to St. Paul that is not in any Gospel and gives Jesus the credit for saying it.
Fixed it for you so that it's more accurate.
There's no way that anyone can verify that Paul did indeed say is claimed he said.
In light of that, please answer the following questions.....
How do you know the quote was from Paul?
How do you know that the quote has been passed down faithfully?
What is your source for verifying the above?
Please provide the documents for verification purposes.
Just because John states that there are things that happened that weren’t written down, doesn’t give anyone the license or liberty to make stuff up about Jesus and spread it around as truth.
The Stuff recorded in Scripture can be verified in Scripture.
Anything else is just hear say.
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