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Faith Leaders Wrestle Over Growing Support for Marijuana
Christian Headlines ^ | February 04, 2014 | Sarah Pulliam Bailey

Posted on 02/05/2014 3:37:20 AM PST by xzins

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1 posted on 02/05/2014 3:37:21 AM PST by xzins
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Most Christians are still reluctant to favor legalization, Rodriguez said, since the effects of marijuana aren’t much different from getting drunk, which is a biblical no-no.

“It has the ability of diluting reason, behavior, putting your guard down,” he said. “We are temples of God’s Holy Spirit, and it has the ability of hindering a clear thought process.”

2 posted on 02/05/2014 3:37:51 AM PST by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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I really don’t think anyone in this country has a clear thought process anymore, sober or not sober.


3 posted on 02/05/2014 3:45:37 AM PST by chris37 (Heartless.)
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Alot of Christians divorce that doesn’t make it an action pastors should condone.

Sad that modern heathen culture finds acceptance among pastors even Christians. We are supposed to be in the world not embracing the world.


4 posted on 02/05/2014 3:55:42 AM PST by RginTN
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To my knowledge, there was no prohibition against drugs and alcohol in either the NT or OT. Nor was there any suggestion that there should be. It was a known problem. Indeed, the Bible admonishes against it.

So how are secular prohibition laws justified on a scriptural basis?

5 posted on 02/05/2014 3:55:49 AM PST by Ken H (What happens on the internet, stays on the internet.)
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I think those who are not sober definitely do not have a clear thought process.

The ability of a sober-minded person varies, of course, based on illness, mental capacity, etc.


6 posted on 02/05/2014 3:56:50 AM PST by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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Intoxication is always presented negatively in the bible


7 posted on 02/05/2014 3:58:30 AM PST by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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I have to wonder ─ in States that have legalized marijuana will prisoners serving time for possession be freed?
8 posted on 02/05/2014 4:22:20 AM PST by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink)
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Intoxication is always presented negatively in the bible

Exactly. Yet there was no legal prohibition, and nowhere does the Bible advocate for it. So how does scripture justify prohibition of drugs or alcohol under secular law?

9 posted on 02/05/2014 4:25:19 AM PST by Ken H (What happens on the internet, stays on the internet.)
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Good question. It would seem to make sense. But law in the US doesn’t make sense....


10 posted on 02/05/2014 4:27:42 AM PST by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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Romans 13 and the invention of the automobile.


11 posted on 02/05/2014 4:29:38 AM PST by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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Romans 13 and the invention of the automobile.

You lost me. Explain how the above justifies legal prohibition.

12 posted on 02/05/2014 4:32:34 AM PST by Ken H (What happens on the internet, stays on the internet.)
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It justifies legal control...a controlled substance.

Same with marijuana, actually.


13 posted on 02/05/2014 4:40:54 AM PST by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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It justifies legal control...a controlled substance.

How so? It says nothing about what secular law should be regarding prohibition. The sanctions described in Romans 13 come from God, not man.

14 posted on 02/05/2014 4:50:18 AM PST by Ken H (What happens on the internet, stays on the internet.)
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Romans 13 says that good rulers make good laws for the good of society and that they should be obeyed.

I don’t know anyone arguing that we drop DUI because it’s got no basis in reality.


15 posted on 02/05/2014 4:56:23 AM PST by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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"Romans 13 says that good rulers make good laws for the good of society and that they should be obeyed".

We are a nation born out of rebellion to god then right? I think you are missing the context of "Romans".

16 posted on 02/05/2014 5:14:47 AM PST by Durus (You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality. Ayn Rand)
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Using your logic here, we should issue an all-out ban on texting anywhere because some people text while driving.

Make the prohibitions specific to a combination of activities such as driving drunk or high. Someone at home drinking or smoking pot does not pose a danger to the travelling public.

17 posted on 02/05/2014 5:20:17 AM PST by dirtboy
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The exact opposite, actually. The argument about good leaders making good laws was the basis for the rebellion: the declaration of independence included that long list of usurpation which were BAD laws from BAD rulers.


18 posted on 02/05/2014 5:21:37 AM PST by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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I don’t see that being my logic at all.

I see governments deciding that texting is dangerous based on statistics and then passing laws attaching penalties for doing so.

That seems a perfectly reasonable law to me given the extreme danger and enormous number of miles driven per year.

If a state chooses such a law, then it seems to me that such a law is within their charter.


19 posted on 02/05/2014 5:24:42 AM PST by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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Romans 13 says that good rulers make good laws for the good of society and that they should be obeyed.

The Founders were certainly good rulers who made good laws for the good of society. The fact that there was no prohibition at the time and no advocacy for such is a major flaw in your position.

I don’t know anyone arguing that we drop DUI because it’s got no basis in reality.

Me neither.

20 posted on 02/05/2014 5:25:03 AM PST by Ken H (What happens on the internet, stays on the internet.)
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