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Posted on 01/15/2014 8:57:46 AM PST by xzins
But when they do that, Os Guiness writes, they don't realize that "They are borrowing not an isolated tool, but a whole philosophical toolbox laden with tools which have their own particular bias to every problem." They may even end up absorbing an entire set of alien principles without even realizing it.
In other words, not only do we fail to be salt and light to a lost culture, but we ourselves may end up being shaped by our culture.”
― Nancy Pearcey, Total Truth: Liberating Christianity from Its Cultural Captivity
“Of course, it is still possible to believe in both modern evolutionary biology and a purposive force, even the Judaeo-Christian God. One can suppose that God started the whole universe or works through the laws of nature (or both). There is no contradiction between this or similar views of God and natural selection. But this view of God is also worthless…. [Such a God] has nothing to do with human morals, answers no prayers, gives no life everlasting, in fact does nothing whatsoever that is detectable. In other words, religion is compatible with modern evolutionary biology (and, indeed, all of modern science) if the religion is effectively indistinguishable from atheism.
“My observation is that the great majority of modern evolutionary biologists now are atheists or something very close to that. Yet prominent atheistic or agnostic scientists publicly deny that there is any conflict between science and religion. Rather than simple intellectual dishonesty, this position is pragmatic. In the United States, elected members of Congress all proclaim to be religious. Many scientists believe that funding for science might suffer if the atheistic implications of modern science were widely understood.”
William B. Provine, review of Trial and Error: The American Controversy over Creation and Evolution, by Edward J. Larson (New York: Oxford University Press, 1985, 224 pp.), Academe, vol. 73 (January/February 1987), pp. 51-52 Provine was Professor of History of Biology, Cornell University
“Modern science directly implies that the world is organized strictly in accordance with deterministic principles or chance. There are no purposive principles whatsoever in nature. There are no gods and no designing forces that are rationally detectable. The frequently made assertion that modern biology and the assumptions of the Judaeo-Christian tradition are fully compatible is false.”
William B. Provine, “Progress in Evolution and Meaning in Life,” in Evolutionary Progress, ed. Matthew H. Nitecki (University of Chicago Press, 1988), p. 65
“The conflict is fundamental and goes much deeper than modern liberal theologians, religious leaders and scientists are willing to admit. Most contemporary scientists, the majority of them by far, are atheists or something very close to that. And among evolutionary biologists, I would challenge the reader to name the prominent scientists who are ‘devoutly religious.’ I am skeptical that one could get beyond the fingers of one hand. Indeed, I would be interested to learn of a single one.”
William B. Provine, “Progress in Evolution and Meaning in Life,” in Evolutionary Progress, ed. Matthew H. Nitecki (University of Chicago Press, 1988), p. 69
Here is another quote from the former high priest of Darwinism.
"A widespread theological view now exists saying that God started off the world, props it up and works through laws of nature, very subtly, so subtly that its action is undetectable. But that kind of God is effectively no different to my mind than atheism. To anyone who adopts this view I say, ‘Great, we’re in the same camp; now where do we get our morals if the universe just goes grinding on as it does?’ This kind of God does nothing outside of the laws of nature, gives us no immortality, no foundation for morals, or any of the things that we want from a God and from religion.”
William B. Provine, “Progress in Evolution and Meaning in Life,” in Evolutionary Progress, ed. Matthew H. Nitecki (University of Chicago Press, 1988), p. 70
Well, some people will say that he wasted a perfectly good rib.
And which is not nebulous oral tradition that is made equal to Scripture and channeled into doctrine by a supreme authority in Rome, but he is referring to Scripture.
Indeed. He also tells us we would do well to take heed of it as a light in a dark place.The darker the days get,the brighter that lamp to our feet appears.
Nothing will smother that light,though it sometimes seems everything wants to!
God vs The Scientist
God was sitting in heaven one day when a scientist said to Him, “God, we don’t need you anymore. Science has finally figured out a way to create life out of nothing – in other words, we can now do what you did in the beginning.”
“Oh, is that so? Explain…” replies God. “Well,” says the scientist, “we can take dirt and form it into the likeness of you and breathe life into it, thus creating man.”
“Well, that’s very interesting… show Me.”
So the scientist bends down to the earth and starts to mold the soil into the shape of a man. “No, no, no…” interrupts God, “Get your own dirt.”
- See more at: http://www.funnyandjokes.com/god-vs-the-scientist.html#sthash.gYz74SSR.dpuf
Correct. Variability within an apparently huge range that DNA already had in-built. It does NOT change the kind of bird.
It's always fascinating to consider the attack on Christianity. It's easy to say it's because we proclaim the Truth, and it's so when we bring it up. It is one evidence of the veracity of our claim. But, evidence only in that other religions are no where near similarly attacked.
No one is posturing to debate Rostafarians, Buddhists, Islamics, or Hindus. Why? Because their view of origins or the very origin of their religion is so disposable that no THREAT is seen in them.
FWIW, Christianity has chosen to challenge their brand of so-called science and it angers them, more than that it makes them worry about their mortality. It almost gets to their conscience....but, not quite.
They realize the ease with which one can look at the complexity of Creation and realize there must be a Designer, a Creator.
They also realize the arguments from the empty tomb.
Christianity confronts them, and Christianity not only defends itself. It defends itself well. It has real teeth, and it's not just rolling over.
Notice how much this community has "hated" on the opponents of global warming. They despise those who fight them who have a valid set of weapons. That is just a small illustration of their "fear" of Christianity and of our Christ.
But if a Christian student postulated that the universe was designed in a way that cannot be naturally explained, then he would be ridiculed out of the class.
Seriously?
It is a two dimensional flat object. Like a flat pancake.
The earth is actually like a three dimensional sphere though not truly a sphere.
When you read Isaiah over, it is very clear the writer considered the earth to be flat as it talks about the heavens acting as a curtain or cover of a tent that we are in. Like where the heck would Australia be for crying out loud.
You sound like a Jehovah's Witness publisher or elder.
As I said before, faith is fantastic to have but dwelling into science and trying to combine science and faith screws you all up. Keep science separate from faith and you will be fine.
They aren’t renowned for being fair and balanced are they?
I mostly agree, as well. Except for the last part. We will never know in the sense that you would like, because we cannot go back in time confirm what happened.
So we are left the questions of the ages. How did time begin? How did energy and mass begin? How did the universe get here? How did life begin?
The answers we choose to those questions are not logical because there is no logical answer, at least in terms of human logic and the physical world we know.
Ironic, isn’t it? The physical laws of the universe prove that the universe is impossible.
So we believe what we want to believe.
If you get a chance to view the Ray Comfort video I posted “Evolution vs. God”, he presents this argument clearly and then shows how the ‘evolution ethic’ has permeated our society. He asked a few students about their views of evolution and then after gave them a moral situation. It went like this: if your dog and neighbor next door were drowning in a river and you could only save one, which one would you save? You will be amazed (maybe not) of the answers. Out of about 5 or 6 students only one said the neighbor!
It is a two dimensional flat object. Like a flat pancake.
Have you spent so much time with the crazy scientists that you think that even though God created it all that he did not know what it looked like.
There are scientists and there are the crazy ones.
Indeed and an astute observation. Just watch Hannity play Bill Maher show clips.
Something like this?
Sorry. It clearly says circle. A circle is a circle and it is not a ball. It is impossible for a tent to completely cover a ball as the ball has many sides.
Like I said, only Jehovah’s Witnesses who are in the “truth” that try that argument with me. There is lots of stuff on many websites disputing Jehovah’s Witnesses that explain how the JWs attempt to misinterpret things including this section of the Bible.
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