Posted on 12/22/2013 1:46:25 PM PST by piusv
What would be the point of being intentionally wrong about your theology?
Xzins, you are exactly right. Besides, the Catholic teaching of Mary having no concupiscence does not mean that she had no ability to reason, challenge prior assumptions, change her mind about something, etc.
No, not a threat. An advice.
Yes, my problem is not so much with you posting but with the article itself. Despite the obvious effort that went into researching the John Paul II quote, it is garbage entirely.
Because you thought that "lies" etc. describes a speech by Our Lady, and it obviously does not.
I appreciate your kind words. I think I’ve reached the end of my ability to add anything new. I’m repeating myself. And, as I’ve been told, my not being a Catholic disqualifies me from commenting.
I can only evaluate what he says and does, and unfortunately this Pope has made a number of controversial, confusing and surprising statements and questionable appointments. As far as his theology goes, time will tell.
This might be the first time a protestant ever defended the pope to catholics and got grief for it. :>)
“You (i.e. “we”) thought...”? How long have you been a mind reader?
No, it’s perfectly understandable; especially when the pope in question walks, talks and acts like a protestant.
I very strongly disagree with that. The article is not caucus; it would be natural for a non-Catholic to comment and join in on criticizing the pope, so why would you be disqualified commenting in a bit unexpected way?
Generally, we need more debate between the Catholics and Protestants, not less, so long that decorum is kept up.
Excuse me for not going back the thread and figuring who of you three said what. If I treated you as a single person, and you are not, I apologize. Your coordination was exemplary.
Actually, it wasn’t solely because you aren’t Catholic. It was because, as a non-Catholic, you seemed to suggest that the three of us were liars (because we did not see what you saw in the homily). Suggesting others are liars is certainly not keeping the decorum up and I just can’t imagine making similar statements about others posters in a thread about another’s faith.
Having said that, I said early on that I should have made this a caucus because this is clearly a Catholic issue and much of the Protestant responses led us in different directions. However, it was interesting to see how many Protestants agreed with Francis. As far as I’m concerned, that only helps to confirm our interpretation of the homily.
And I replied to your example with a few other VERY similar examples described in New Advent as “not apostolic tradition”, but “personal, private opinion”. It was clear that New Advent was using these examples to show opinions that weren’t quite in line with apostolic tradition. Francis’ comments are at least in that category (but I would argue he took it a step further).
Well now, that’s your opinion. You disagree with their assertions. However, they also comment on other Catholic things as well including another thread made by blathernaut about abortionists. I don’t recall seeing anyone take issue with that posting. Probably because the posters agreed with what they said there.
Blogs are allowed to be posted. When I see a blog I don’t tell others not to post it. I don’t tell them it is garbage. It is understood that it is an opinion. And I certainly don’t threaten them with “DONT DO IT AGAIN”. And yes, I take it as a threat. If it was mere advice, you could have said it might be a good idea, etc. You just flatly told me NOT TO DO IT AGAIN.
I began commenting on this thread far before my comment about those saying they can’t see the contrast.
I’ll ask you again: “Do you see the contrast we’ve pointed out?”
There are marian opinions of St. John Chrysostom that are not withing the patristic consensus, and I purposely did not offer those. Augustine, however, is not known for error in mariology.
LOL. You can take it as an assassination attempt, too.
So, as RM, should I not post blogs? Because all I really care about in this instance is what the rules state, not what some internet stranger prefers that I do and his so-called “advice”.
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