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Is Jesus Christ God?
Christian Answers ^ | 2012 | Various

Posted on 12/22/2013 7:28:20 AM PST by DouglasKC

“The Christian faith has not been tried and found wanting. It has rather been found difficult and left untried.” —Chesterton

I am the Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending.The story of Jesus is either the greatest event in history or the cruelest hoax. If it is a hoax, then the whole of the Christian message crumbles together with the hopes of those multitudes of lives built on his name. The apostle Paul said:

“And if Christ is not risen, then our preaching is empty and your faith is also empty. Yes, and we are found false witnesses of God, because we have testified of God that He raised up Christ, whom He did not raise up; if in fact the dead do not rise. For if the dead do not rise, then Christ is not risen. And if Christ is not risen, your faith is futile; you are still in your sins! Then also those who have fallen asleep in Christ have perished. If in this life only we have hope in Christ, we are of all men the most pitiable.” -1 Corinthians 15:14-19 (NKJV)

But if the story is true, then this world has been hit with extraordinary news of earth-shaking consequences. Have you taken the trouble to decide which it is?

In a matter this weighty, it is in your interest to explore the truth or falsity of Christ's claims. Amazingly however, many people who don't believe have never bothered to explore the evidence in support of Jesus,[1] but to the contrary, often run away from it. At the same time, many Christians themselves are not sure, at bottom, whether the claims of their faith are solid. Is the Christian claim a hoax? Is it just wishful thinking? Or is it actually true?

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TOPICS: General Discusssion; Religion & Culture
KEYWORDS: christianity; god; historicity; historicityofchrist; historicityofjesus; jesus; trinity
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans
“Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. Ideas must be distinct before reason can act upon them; and no man ever had a distinct idea of the trinity. It is the mere Abracadabra of the mountebanks calling themselves the priests of Jesus.” ― Thomas Jefferson
201 posted on 12/23/2013 1:10:50 AM PST by tedw
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To: tedw

“Sure I can.”


Apparently you can’t, since it doesn’t appear you are able to even use the actual words of the text to make any sense. I suppose this is what blindness ACTUALLY looks like, eh?


202 posted on 12/23/2013 1:32:56 AM PST by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: tedw
Great. I look forward to seeing it but I don’t think you will be able to show me.

Read carefully my post 194. That said, I now agree no one can convince you.

203 posted on 12/23/2013 5:09:20 AM PST by GarySpFc (We are saved by the precious blood of the God-man.)
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To: DouglasKC

Did Jesus Claim to be God? [Caucus]

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/3104583/posts


204 posted on 12/23/2013 6:49:42 AM PST by Kevmo ("A person's a person, no matter how small" ~Horton Hears a Who)
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To: tedw; redleghunter

Acts 15:8 And God, who knows the heart, bore witness by granting them the holy Spirit just as he did us. 9 He made no distinction between us and them, for by faith he purified their hearts.


205 posted on 12/23/2013 6:50:35 AM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ)
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To: fabian; HarleyD; tedw
>> But Jesus subjected himself to God.<<

Until you understand that Jesus was both fully God and fully man you will never understand how it was that Jesus the man subjected Himself.

206 posted on 12/23/2013 6:56:10 AM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ)
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To: tedw; GarySpFc
>>but I don’t think you will be able to show me.<<

At least not until God opens your eyes.

2 Corinthians 4:4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

207 posted on 12/23/2013 7:05:07 AM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ)
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To: tedw; Greetings_Puny_Humans

John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.


208 posted on 12/23/2013 7:08:19 AM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ)
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To: CynicalBear; tedw; Greetings_Puny_Humans

John 1:14. And the Word became flesh, and dwelt among us, and we saw His glory, glory as of the only begotten from the Father, full of grace and truth. John * testified about Him and cried out, saying, “This was He of whom I said, ‘ He who comes after me has a higher rank than I, for He existed before me. ’” For of His fullness we have all received, and grace upon grace.


209 posted on 12/23/2013 7:12:39 AM PST by gitmo (If your theology doesn't become your biography, what good is it?)
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To: tedw; Greetings_Puny_Humans
>> The other does not say the Word was God.<<

John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

The Greek word for “God” in that verse is the same for both instances of “God”. If you deny that the Word was God you also need to believe that the first was not God.

210 posted on 12/23/2013 7:17:57 AM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ)
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To: fabian

Who created the world and all that is in it? Please answer also my post 210.


212 posted on 12/23/2013 7:22:18 AM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ)
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To: gitmo; tedw; Greetings_Puny_Humans; fabian

Those who deny that Jesus is God have no hope of salvation.


213 posted on 12/23/2013 7:37:17 AM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ)
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To: CynicalBear

it is the exact opposite...brainwashing of the apostasy precludes salvation! Jesus is not a God, there is only one God! How so very gullible many are.


214 posted on 12/23/2013 7:38:54 AM PST by fabian (" And a new day will dawn for those who stand long, and the forests will echo in laughter")
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To: CynicalBear

I’m not so sure of that statement. The Gospel message and forgiveness are based upon faith alone in Christ alone. Most Christians never make it beyond a handful of basic doctrines,....spiritual 3rd graders, if you will, but our salvation isn’t dependent upon our academic advancement, as much as it rests upon simple faith in Him.

Considering it took the early Church some 300 years to express the doctrine of the Trinity, I believe many of them were still saved believers even without the maturity of those doctrines.


215 posted on 12/23/2013 8:00:22 AM PST by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: Cvengr

It took the Organized Church 300 years.

It took Peter one second to realize that Jesus was the Christ, the Son of the Living God.

And the Church of Christ is made up of people who realize the Truth for themselves. Upon that rock, that type of man, Jesus builds his true Church.


217 posted on 12/23/2013 8:29:51 AM PST by tedw
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To: Cvengr

It took the Organized Church 300 years.

It took Peter one second to realize that Jesus was the Christ, the Son of the Living God.

And the Church of Christ is made up of people who realize the Truth for themselves. Upon that rock, that type of man, Jesus builds his true Church.


218 posted on 12/23/2013 8:29:52 AM PST by tedw
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To: Cvengr

It took the Organized Church 300 years.

It took Peter one second to realize that Jesus was the Christ, the Son of the Living God.

And the Church of Christ is made up of people who realize the Truth for themselves. Upon that rock, that type of man, Jesus builds his true Church.


219 posted on 12/23/2013 8:29:52 AM PST by tedw
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To: DouglasKC

I believe so.


220 posted on 12/23/2013 8:31:41 AM PST by ZULU (Impeach that Bastard Barrack Hussein Obama the Doctor Mengele of Medical Care)
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