Be Clear About The Mark of The Beast

http://billrandles.wordpress.com/2013/12/08/be-clear-about-the-mark-rev-14/ ^ | 12-06-13 | Bill Randles

[CynicalBear]

>> I should be ashamed that I said “I’ve never convinced a mid or post-trib believer” instead of trying!<<

My dad always said to us kids when he would start some long “instruction on life” that he wouldn’t have to answer for what we kids did with the information he gave us but he sure would answer for what information he gave us”.

[OneWingedShark]

The rapture happens at the same time Christ returns. No one is going to escape the tribulation where we’re faced with agreeing with or denying the beast.

That may be, it may also be (I certainly hope that pre-trib is true, so I won't have to go through it) — but, at the end of the day, the real question is this:
Jesus has the power to save, and has said he will save those who believe on him, so do you believe that he can and will do what he says?

“Indeed, God did not send the Son into the world to condemn the world, but in order that the world might be saved through him. Those who believe in him are not condemned; but those who do not believe are condemned already, because they have not believed in the name of the only Son of God.

-- John 3:17-18

This doesn't mean that you need blind [irrational] faith, believing-as-an-act-of-will; because God is rational, and he is reasonable too, he's not going to cast someone away just because they sometimes doubt; look at Thomas:

Now Thomas (also known as Didymus), one of the Twelve, was not with the disciples when Jesus came. 25 So the other disciples told him, “We have seen the Lord!”

But he said to them, “Unless I see the nail marks in his hands and put my finger where the nails were, and put my hand into his side, I will not believe.”

A week later his disciples were in the house again, and Thomas was with them. Though the doors were locked, Jesus came and stood among them and said, “Peace be with you!” Then he said to Thomas, “Put your finger here; see my hands. Reach out your hand and put it into my side. Stop doubting and believe.”

Thomas said to him, “My Lord and my God!”

Then Jesus told him, “Because you have seen me, you have believed; blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed.”

-- John 20:24-29

Indeed, even Paul gave a reply that deals with the idea of if the resurrection were a lie:

If Christ has not been raised, your faith is futile and you are still in your sins. Then those also who have died in Christ have perished. If for this life only we have hoped in Christ, we are of all people most to be pitied.

But in fact Christ has been raised from the dead, the first fruits of those who have died.[b] 21 For since death came through a human being, the resurrection of the dead has also come through a human being;

-- 1 Cor. 15:17-20

and Jesus did not send away the man who expressed doubt:

And they brought the boy to him. When the spirit saw him, immediately it convulsed the boy, and he fell on the ground and rolled about, foaming at the mouth.

Jesus asked the father, “How long has this been happening to him?”

And he said, “From childhood. It has often cast him into the fire and into the water, to destroy him; but if you are able to do anything, have pity on us and help us.”

Jesus said to him, “If you are able!—All things can be done for the one who believes.”

Immediately the father of the child cried out, “I believe; help my unbelief!”

When Jesus saw that a crowd came running together, he rebuked the unclean spirit, saying to it, “You spirit that keeps this boy from speaking and hearing, I command you, come out of him, and never enter him again!”

After crying out and convulsing him terribly, it came out, and the boy was like a corpse, so that most of them said, “He is dead.”

But Jesus took him by the hand and lifted him up, and he was able to stand.

-- Mark 9:20-27

Heck, even denying Jesus isn't unforgivable, look at Peter.

[OneWingedShark]

>> “receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand”;
>
> IN the forehead, meaning no knowledge of the beast because of not researching Scripture’s warnings??—(or following weak pastors/teachers??)

How can a lack of something be put in [recieved]?
I think you’re reaching.

[OneWingedShark]

Taking the mark as a sin would in and of itself be forgivable with sincere repentance and asking forgiveness of God

If nothing else, one could take Jesus's words as literal:

If your hand or your foot causes you to stumble, cut it off and throw it away. It is better for you to enter life maimed or crippled than to have two hands or two feet and be thrown into eternal fire.

-- Matthew 18:8

[StormPrepper]

It's not referring to actual mark. It's referring to having the thoughts of the beast in your head and raising your hand to agree to the beast.

Look around today and ask yourself what evil design is keeping people from buying and selling?

Here ya go

It's only going to get worse. Unless you agree with it, you won't be able to trade.

[M-cubed]

Thank You!...”small points” are how we build logic for “our” day of reckoning..

[delchiante]

From my studying and revelation, God’s calendar is truly different from the Gregorian calendar... His calendar as scripture detailed was using both the moon and the sun... the calendars today only use the sun.... if you can’t find the start of His months, you can’t find his sabbath.... or the feast days...

His calendar is not a five day work week and two days off..

If you follow His timekeeepng, days like thanksgiving and Christmas and easter are holy days that have been man made,... and it is now easier to buy and sell on eastter and thanksgiving but hard on Christmas... it may be a future time when all things will be closed so no one can buy and sell less you buy into these days .....

Life altering to say the least when I was studying passion week and Leviticus 23 and moses and the wilderness....

Someone wanting to observe His calendar has to use vacation days for His sabbath as His calendar doesn’t tie into the Gregorian..that calendar floats into His.... new moon and month same word in scripture in a number of passage... and you cont from then... He never named days, He numbered them...
Spiritual mark is a calendar, maybe time itself as a counterfeit to God’s timekeeping... who doesn’t use it? More confirmation when I studied Jericho and the seven day march and he fact they didn’t violate a sabbath.someday the world may call on one sabbath universal or maybe take three day off where you can’t buy or sell.. I know again, it is difficult to buy or sell on Christmas... and before this study and prayer, I thought Christmas should have stuff closed... not anymore.. the more things open, the better...

[Jeremiah Jr]

Gird up your loins... Department

Revelation 13:1 And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy.

‎7 dinars equal 10 dirhams

The Importance of Paying Zakat with Dinar & Dirham ... of the Khalif Umar Ibn al-Khattab, the weight of 10 dirhams was equivalent to 7 dinars (mithqals).

...and 666 years after the crucifixion (30 CE) Abd al Malik standardized Islamic currency. Count the number like you count the omer.

In the year 75 (695 CE) the Khalifah Abdalmalik ordered Al-Hajjaj to mint the first dirhams, thus he established officially the standard of Umar Ibn al-Khattab. In the next year he ordered the dirhams to be minted in all the regions of the Dar al-Islam. He ordered that the coins be stamped with the sentence: "Allah is Unique, Allah is Eternal". He ordered the removal of human figures and animals from the coins and that they be replaced with letters.
www.islamicmint.com/dinar_dirham/

He ordered that the coins be stamped with the sentence: "Allah is Unique, Allah is Eternal".
...and upon his heads the name of blasphemy.

Here are their plans…

White Paper on Islamic Bimetallic Currency
Gold and silver restore social equilibrium
The dinar and the dirham can be the world currency of all free people
http://www.sharelynx.com/papers/WhitePaperonIslamicBimetallicCurrency.php

Clip: Change of all paper notes for newly minted dinars and dirhams, and abolition of all paper-money privileges.

Did you get that? This is the mint (mark) in the hand, the mark in the forehead comes from bowing to Mecca.

Quran Al Fatah 48
Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah ; and those with him are forceful against the disbelievers, merciful among themselves. You see them bowing and prostrating [in prayer], seeking bounty from Allah and [His] pleasure. Their mark is on their faces from the trace of prostration. That is their description in the Torah. And their description in the Gospel is as a plant which produces its offshoots and strengthens them so they grow firm and stand upon their stalks, delighting the sowers - so that Allah may enrage by them the disbelievers. Allah has promised those who believe and do righteous deeds among them forgiveness and a great reward.
http://quran.com/

The mark in the hand is paying the Jizya Tax, in the Quran you pay with the right hand, cause and effect.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/sep/10/egypts-muslim-brotherhood-convert-islam-or-pay-jiz/

http://www.islammonitor.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2456&Itemid=96

[RoosterRedux]

I hadn't really of the zabiba/zebiba as being the mark on the forehead...but it makes a lot of sense.

Of course, this doesn't identify the Beast, but it does provide a huge clue (if true) as to the Mark itself.

Look at Post 41 (above) for some addition evidence re: this point...

[SisterK]

There is a very good youtube discussion, Rapture or Rupture with Steve Quayle. I highly recommend listening.

[Vision]

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