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Methodist Leaders Rebuke Bishop Who Held Gay Marriage, Call for Charges
Charisma News ^ | 11/18/2013 | Bill Roberts

Posted on 11/20/2013 6:41:52 AM PST by xzins

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1 posted on 11/20/2013 6:41:52 AM PST by xzins
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The UMC Council of Bishops statement calls for charges to be filed against Talbert for both "conducting a ceremony to celebrate the marriage of a same gender couple" and "undermining the ministry of a colleague." Conducting such ceremonies is expressly prohibited in the church's governing Book of Discipline, which all ordained UMC clergy have vowed to uphold.
2 posted on 11/20/2013 6:42:21 AM PST by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: imardmd1; Venturer; fwdude; Foundahardheadedwoman; 2ndDivisionVet; faithhopecharity; aimhigh; ...

Ping to rebuke and charges


3 posted on 11/20/2013 6:47:08 AM PST by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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Link to the full-text Free Republic thread.


4 posted on 11/20/2013 6:48:10 AM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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Good to see the church turning toward the right and the light.


5 posted on 11/20/2013 6:51:16 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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I think the Methodists took a good long look at the Episcopalian Debacle, and decided that they simply did not want to go down that road.

Makes sense - they have a long history of NOT following the Episcopalians :-D

6 posted on 11/20/2013 6:52:54 AM PST by AnAmericanMother (Ecce Crucem Domini, fugite partes adversae. Vicit Leo de Tribu Iuda, Radix David, Alleluia!)
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He was suspended for 30 days. But....if he violates any rules during that 30 days then he will be defrocked. And he has taken a defiant attitude, suggesting that he plans to break several rules.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/pastor-frank-schaefer-unrepentant-officiating-gay-son-wedding-article-1.1522430


7 posted on 11/20/2013 6:57:26 AM PST by JoeDetweiler
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Your link is about a pastor named Frank Shaeffer. This is about a bishop, Melvin Talbert. They both involve marrying gays, and Shaeffer was convicted, so they’re easy to mix up seeing that they’ve happened at the same time.


8 posted on 11/20/2013 7:03:12 AM PST by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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Oooops.....another one??


9 posted on 11/20/2013 7:04:28 AM PST by JoeDetweiler
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Yep, another one. Only this is a retired bishop who was part of the problem when he was active. Thought he could get away with it once he retired, but apparently there are many now who realize that saying “the rules don’t count” for one area mean the rules don’t count for others who don’t feel like following other rules.


10 posted on 11/20/2013 7:07:42 AM PST by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: AnAmericanMother

It’s going to be slow, because we have only one 2 week long rule making meeting every 4 years, but the African churches are holding the line and giving strength to the conservatives still in the Methodist Church in the USA.


11 posted on 11/20/2013 7:09:47 AM PST by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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The African Anglicans tried - but the American Piskies just tanked over them.

I think the Methodists have a broader base and do not have the 50-year history of lunacy that the Piskies have.

12 posted on 11/20/2013 7:14:43 AM PST by AnAmericanMother (Ecce Crucem Domini, fugite partes adversae. Vicit Leo de Tribu Iuda, Radix David, Alleluia!)
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Bingo...


13 posted on 11/20/2013 7:16:05 AM PST by ejonesie22 (8/30/10, the day Truth won.)
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I agree. The Methodists began with a larger group of biblical Christians than did the piscopals.


14 posted on 11/20/2013 7:16:46 AM PST by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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>>I agree. The Methodists began with a larger group of biblical Christians than did the piscopals.

We have the advantage of having a history of being a holiness church too. Although many of the bishops and clergy shy away from that these days, the congregations are really starting to find their way back to holiness.

I’m hoping that a hardline stand in these trials will result in many of the hard-core leftists leaving to find gayer pastures to spread their...umm...ministry.


15 posted on 11/20/2013 7:23:14 AM PST by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: JoeDetweiler

A premeditated public and expressly forbidden unholy act SHOULD have resulted in permanent suspension of his church authority.


16 posted on 11/20/2013 8:23:50 AM PST by hoosierham (Freedom isn't free)
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Sure would be nice if the Catholic Church would grow some balls and do this.


17 posted on 11/20/2013 8:25:29 AM PST by Svartalfiar
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And, as one raised Catholic I am dismayed that more willfully disobedient priests are not severely disciplined.

If the shepherds break the laws with impunity how can the flock be guided?


18 posted on 11/20/2013 8:26:41 AM PST by hoosierham (Freedom isn't free)
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2 different cases, but I agree with you on both of them.

As a Methodist, I didn’t think they’d come down hard because this was the guy’s first conviction. We run our judicial system similar to the USA justice system.

I thought that the penalty would be a minimum 1 year suspension, but it was 30 days.

They have essentially said that our rules are optional with a 30 day waiting period.

What’s sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander.


19 posted on 11/20/2013 8:28:15 AM PST by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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The good thing about the Catholic Church is that you actually have an authority who can put a wayward bishop out to pasture. They might not exercise that too often (if ever?), but they do have the authority.

My Methodists are learning that tolerating this is causing their churches to empty.


20 posted on 11/20/2013 8:31:10 AM PST by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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