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Posted on 10/21/2013 8:04:26 AM PDT by fabian
Actually a few years ago the Navy pushed this meditation technique upon us... It was to help people suffering from ptsd. Interesting the military is slowly crushing christianity yet promoting things like this.
I’m in the Army. Pushing it there too. All part of the Resiliency Program. Here I am an evangelical in my 40s sitting through this secular sanctioned and mandatory “talking out sessions.” Then my turn came to discuss what makes me resilient. Well of course Christ! Half the room cringed, the other half looked at their feet. It was like I passed bad gas in the room the reaction I got. No moderator there told me to hush it was my time to speak and I did. I had a whole bunch of recent trials to share with them and how Christ pulled me and my family through (my son at the time was being treated for leukemia).
After that the 06 commander got up and said “there is some good things about faith...it does not matter if you have God or gaia just have something some higher power.”
I nearly collapsed after that and our Greek Orthodox chaplain shook his head. So yeah the Army is doing that garbage too. I told the commanded a few days later the Army and society has so many basket cases because they deny Christ.
Righty-o!
Thanks,
jodyel
http://www.watchman.org/cults/roymstrs.htm
Definitely a cult.
Always beware those who entice one into prayer, meditation, and submission to another, but adamantly deny the basic tenets of the Christian faith, such as the Divinity of Christ, the Holy Spirit, or salvation by faith.
They also tend to substitute a counterfeit gospel to mislead away from God through faith in Christ.
Oh I am well aware, Cvengr, and I hope that fabian will also see it one day.
We are not forgiven by the Cross. The Cross was Judgment, not forgiveness. Forgiveness only comes after faith alone in Christ alone.
Many masons avoid Christ by saying the Masonic prayer to the Adversary and calling another God, but not Christ. In turn, some of them are acted upon as though they are mastering over spirits, when they themselves are possessed through spiritual deception.
Their lack of faith and devotion to the Adversary is then manifest by their immediate accusation of believers in Christ, as is also manifest in your post.
The Triune God of the Bible provides much more than such a counterfeit substitute presented by "Roy Masters" aka Reuben Obermeister. The Good News is He died for our sins on the Cross, so that we may have salvation by Faith through Jesus Christ, who is both man and God the Son.
He is not God and neither is Roy a cult. You and many very gullible folks have bought the apostasy of these end times. Sad.
Lucifer! He counts as a “higher power,” right?
Good for you for boldly speaking the truth!
We endure endless mind conditioning (brainwashing) in the Navy. The latest, after forcing homosexuality upon us, is now we must accept homosexual partners who deserve all dependent benefits.
I hear you. It is a much different Army than I joined many moons ago. Retiring soon.
I saw the change beginning back in the mid-90s, when they had us do those conditioning exercises in leadership class (you’re stranded in a lifeboat that can only support X people, who do you save and who dies? Group decision)... It really started to accelerate pedal to the metal about five years ago with the PC eradication of Christian beliefs, involuntary participation in this new age crap.
More evidence of a cult... condescending speech to those who don’t go along. Evident right here in this thread by those defending RM. It works on those easily manipulated.
I.E.: “you lack common sense. Anything that doesn’t line up with my belief is BS. You are just a (fill in the blank). My stuff is for better people who want more. You don’t have a clue. I would never settle for what you believe. You have no idea. You are very presumptuous (then goes on to make presumptions of others). You are so off base. You turn people away from Jesus. I’m sorry you can’t grasp my ideas. Cling to your belief if you must, but it’s not much. Sorry you can’t comprehend my enlightened thinking. You are very gullible. You are apostate.”
...these are accusations that result from not going along with the program. Who is also known as the great accuser? This is manipulation.
Evidence: the Word is not enough. That is a phony salvation. You must do (fill in the blank) to have real salvation.
If someone disagrees, employ manipulation techniques.
Uh..that doctor is a wacko!
He says to “pull energy down from above” and imagine you’re in a big waterfall.
Totally occultic, Fabian.
Ed
There is zero occultic about Roy and he is very right wing too. Those that cannot clearly and simply se that are those that are ensnared in the present day apostasy that has claimed most of the church.
I was speaking about the doctor you praised. Read his modified meditation, it’s pure occult.
Ed
oh..well ok..my bad. There are indeed good and bad doctors using Roy’s rediscovered silent prayer. There was one “rev.” that even took Roy’s be still and crafted his own screwed up version and now is unwilling to promote the real deal. That would be Jesse Lee Peterson. Pretty sad stuff.
Can you provide links concerning Jesse Lee Peterson? I’d be interested I’m that.
Oops, in that.
Do you think right wing means someone is Christian?
That’s the problem with this type of meditation. That doctor, who you indeed praised, opened himself up to who knows what. That is the risk and danger I was referring to.
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