Posted on 08/20/2013 6:33:07 AM PDT by Alex Murphy
I will pray for her. I think one of the reasons people don’t change is pride.
She’s probably been conditioned all her life to play the race card and admitting you’ve been wrong for most of your life is a biter pill to swallow.
The "average" salary for full-time public school teachers in 2010–11 was $56,069. So the public school "average" teachers make twice as much as money as our "top" teachers.
I am amazed and edified that we can find so many people with a college degree who will serve full-time for under $20,000. They're already working at a sacrificial level of compensation. It is not morally right to expect people to work for so little money that they can't afford to get married and raise a family.
It's true that things were different 50-60 years ago. I attended a Catholic school whose whole teaching faculty consisted of nuns, with the exception of Mr. Keats in Science and Miss Vandetti in Music. It was a level of dedication we kind of took for granted in the '50's.
But for a variety of reasons too lengthy to go into right now, the number of nuns today is 1/3 what it was 50 years ago --- the numbers plunged from 180,000 to 59,000 --- with the average age now something like 72.
Ultimately, you are right, a bold call to sacrifice is needed. Religious vocations, the retired forming a teacher corps as you said. That, and home schooling.
Catholics are only 23% of the population of the USA, but we run and subsidize far more schools than the other churches put together --- the Lutheran, Episcopalian, and independent Christian schools, etc. Where are Baptists, Methodists, Presbyterians, Assemblies of God on this? Why don't they all start school systems like the Catholics did?
Why would your teachers need a college degree? What does a college degree mean exactly, because the Lord raises up, who HE wants to raise up. At Baptism we are gifted by the Holy Spirit with everything we need.
DO you read the Bible? Have they not been gifted by God to teach?
Why is the emphasis on worldly things and people and credentials? Why do you want to conform to the world, and their idea of school so much?
The Catholic religion is big enough to work for donations, and allow the people to live without the bondage of Catholic School prices.
There are plenty of Christian school systems. AND beside that, many of us homeschool our own children and don’t ask for anything from anyone.
And when my children are over 18, you bet your bottom dollar I will offer my services for free to anyone who is open to hearing the gospel of Jesus Christ.
I have children who score 100% on the standardized tests. I have a 11 year old who is doing calculus for fun. WHY? Because he had a teacher with a college degree in Calculus?
NO. Hardly. Because God has a plan for this child and I know how to point my child toward finding and hearing God’s will.
A teacher does not need a college degree for a child to be who God has designed him/her to be.
That is so silly to block yourself into a worldly box. Anything is possible with God. You don’t think you could amass an army of people to teach for free, for a generation of children to bring glory to the name of Jesus and our Father?
Pft.
Homeschoolers are doing it every single day by the thousands.
However, in TN I don't think you can be licensed to run a school without accreditation and licensing, and if you try, I think your school will be shut down and padlocked by the state. This has nothing to do with state funding in any way. You can be 100% private and still run into these licensing issues.
Even 40 years ago, when I literally helped build (from the ground up) a private Christian school in Pennsylvania, all funded by donations, the regulatory maze was horrendous. It's a pretty safe bet that it's worse now.
I know it varies state by state. I'm not an expert on TN law, but you might be surprised by how extensive the state regulatory apparatus is; I don't think there's a school in this state (TN) that escapes its tentacles.
Where are you, by the way?
I think you are thinking INSIDE the box. Jesus told us to get out of the box and to pick up our crosses and follow Him.
Why would you want to the copy public education model? Does God not inspire you, and other Catholics, to see beyond your horizon?
If you are emulating the world, and making yourself comfortable in a public school model, you are not doing it right. :)
The Lord breaks us and thrashes us, and bring us in for the Harvest. We will weep bitterly, and rejoice greatly. The seasons and festivals are laid out for us, like any planting schedule. It is all in the Bible for us to learn, so we will not be afraid, but know what to expect.
If you refuse to get in the trashing field , you are going to arrive at your destination never having been tested, and never knowing what peace your faith will bring you.
God’s glory comes from us getting out of the box and following his voice thru a maze of experiences that are hard and trying and difficult. And no one around you will give you a degree or certification or state approval, because they will think you are crazy. THEY thought Jesus was crazy too. He taught about the Father anyway.
WHY would you want to make a school, which looks like the world? WHO said that was the Godly model? You are commanded to not be OF the world, but to be transformed by the renewal of your mind.
Yes, we follow rules and laws of the government. Always. But that does not mean that we are under their Kingsmanship.
Can’t you think of what a school of Jesus, which follows all rules, would look like?
Be creative. Because with God, all things are possible.
And --- depending on the state law --- if it's not legal, you're not thinking "outside the box," you're thinking "inside the jail" --- and losing custody of your kids to juvenile detention or foster care.
Which could be a wonderful spiritual experience in itself, of course, if you're willing to face the enhanced risk of forcible sodomy.
I am trying to help you free yourself from the bondage you are in. I fear that you are a victim of worldly thinking, and you may not ever *get it*.
Go ahead and follow the world and all of their “conventional ideas”, but it isn’t going to give glory to God or give you any victory over the darkness.
Would you attempt to organize and conduct an illegal, unaccredited, unlicensed school, if, in your state, this would result in your losing custody of your children?
In my view, it would be better to set up Christian school that could gain the accreditation and the license. That way you can educate your kids in a Christian manner, AND keep your custody of them as their parents.
So answer my question, if you can: would you deliberately flout the requirements of licensing your school, knowing that running an unlicensed school would result in your losing custody of your children?
Because it is my desire for you to find these things for yourself. That is the only way you will understand.
Your questions show that you are thinking of nothing other than what is in the box., so it is a useless discussion, under your direction.
Did I not already say that we follow and obey the laws and rules? So if I said that, then why do you keep asking me if I would follow the laws and rules?
If I say it again, will you accept that I a saying we are commanded to follow and obey the laws. We do not break laws.
Let me be very direct with you. Tomorrow I am going to a Baptist church, of which I am NOT a member. My children will attend classes with teachers- one of them a public school teacher, with their back backs and notebooks and do homework to get grades. It is a group of about 300 families.
The same church offers football, soccer, tennis, basketball, honors Calculus, Speech and Debate- for k-12.
The cost? Well for honor’s physics - high school- 1 year $500.00. all the rest about $600.00 for two children.
WHY?
Because the Baptist church is making it possible, and the teachers are donating their time, and the parents are taking responsibility and following each and every single homeschool rule and law of the state.
Your comfort is your state certifications and worldly acceptance.
And for what it’s worth each of my children took all the state standardized tests and were eligible for state graduation before 5th grade and 8th grade.
They will be able to attend just about any college they prefer.
What charges is the government going to bring upon me? That my children are too well educated and well behaved? That they are too successful?
NOW- tell me again how I am going to end up in prison and lose my children?
Christians are by the thousands and millions finding ways to afford excellent education for generations of Christian children, and to lead the pack, because Christians donate their time and resources for great education, and for the glory of the Lord.
WHY can’t the Catholics do the same? Because they need to make sure they “follow the laws”? Why could the Catholic church not open the doors for the community to use for free classrooms? And people donate their skills and gifts and resources for the families to mentor and educate the children for as cheap as possible?
Because so many are of the world, trying to conform to the world- and they will not step out.
I'd like to learn more. Would you please tell me the name and location of his church education program, and/or a website?
They are all over the place. Most Christian churches have homeschool co-ops, in every state. Look one up.
Do I want to give you personal information like that about myself?
No. I don’t.
Our family did homeschooling for 11 years up here in Upper East TN and there was no homeschooling coop within 100 miles. I'm rather thrilled by this positive Christian initiative.
“We can trace the Catholic vote going back since they started arriving here in large numbers in the mid 1800s, it has always been a white vote, the large Catholic immigration from our Catholic neighbor, Mexico, is a recent event, but the Catholic vote is remaining as it always has been with a handful of exceptions, democrat.”
That does not rebut my assertion.
The point is, the Catholic vote today is the same party vote that it has always been, democrat.
Catholic is a denomination, not a race, and the Catholic vote has always been predictable.
“The point is, the Catholic vote today is the same party vote that it has always been, democrat.”
There was a time when it was possible to love America and vote democrat with no contradiction. Many of the Catholics who vote democrat do so because they do not realize what has happened to the democrat party.
Of course, some Catholics are just dip-wad, drooling-idiot libtards, as I stipulated in my first post on this thread.
However, there seems to be a large and growing grass-roots rebellion against Father Feelgood and the church of what’s happening now.
No, Catholics vote democrat because the like their politics.
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