Posted on 07/10/2013 7:57:27 AM PDT by Zionist Conspirator
Hebrew, the Divine language, corresponds with objective reality in a way no other language does. Note also the descent of all languages from Hebrew.
Ping.
How does this square with the Biblical parable of the Workers in the Vineyard?
Jesus was obviously trying to deal with the fact that most contemporary Jews would have found it unfair that the workers who went to the vineyard late in the day would receive the same pay as those who started at dawn. Would they not have had to have some concept of “fairness” if Christ felt a need to try and overcome it?
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Note also the descent of all languages from Hebrew.
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Thanks for posting, and for the hit.
Here we go....
The Jews of Christ’s time were also influenced by the Greeks.
Jesus was obviously trying to deal with the fact that most contemporary Jews would have found it unfair that the workers who went to the vineyard late in the day would receive the same pay as those who started at dawn. Would they not have had to have some concept of fairness if Christ felt a need to try and overcome it?
What the "new testament" says is not of the slightest interest or concern to me.
You chrstians who are daily cutting each other to shreds and disproving each other's beliefs would be much better off (and in tune with Truth) if you put it in file 13 along with the "book of mormon" so many of you constantly trash.
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“Generally, English words for which there are no Hebrew equivalents are unreal concepts detached from reality.”
That statement needs some proving.
“Generally” is the weasel word here. What’s the Hebrew equivalent for “generally”? What’s the Hebrew equivalent for “weasel”?
Bikhlal is the Hebrew expression for "in general."
As for "weasel," according to the Hebrew Wikipedia article for that animal it is sammur. My Hebrew/English dictionary (whose type is so small I can barely read it any more) has three other words: chamos, nokhel (which probably refers to a sneaky person), and one I can't make out.
At any rate there is certainly a Hebrew word for weasel. It was named by Adam and present on the Teva', wasn't it?
Fascinating that “adolescent” isn’t in the lexicon. The entire concept of adolescence is pretty modern and I wonder if it isn’t one indication of cultural decadence. Probably more later on that in another thread - no hijacking today.
I have heard a very interesting talk by a Rabbi explaining how words like “adolescence” and “retirement” do not exist in Hebrew. And how the word for “face” is always plural.
I still don’t understand though how a first-century Jew like Jesus Christ would be concerned enough to relate that parable if they had no word for(and, I presume, no concept of) “fairness”.
Cool. There are a ton of examples (of course I’m drawing a blank...) Explicit ones like “Cherubic” in English, an exact transliteration from the Hebrew. Or babbel...of course from the famous tower of confusion (B-A-V-E-L)
Your obsession about the "first century" is causing you to completely miss the points Rabbi Lapin is trying to make.
Employer/employee relations, including wages, are governed by Torah Law. Perhaps that is the concept you are trying to find.
If God wants you to work the vineyard, He decides your wages.
As a Christian, if I was saved at 8 years old and worked all my life for the Glory of God, why would I be upset that some criminal confessed Jesus right before he died and goes to Heaven? If my Father receives a larger Harvest, I rejoice for Him, for He the One to deserve the Glory. He earned it all on the cross.
Hebrew uses the word “shilem” (same root as “shalom” peace, indicating completion) for “pay back”. So there is an analogous concept if it is not exact.
“You chrstians who are daily cutting each other to shreds and disproving each other’s beliefs”
Don’t worry I can take the time to do it to you too.
Yes. We knew that the Canaanites would arrive once again to dispute as to whether they or Hebrews invented the early, pictographic language (Canaanites, also known as the Phoenicians, who once, very long ago, skedaddled in their ships northward, clinging to the coast, to a big island to prostrate themselves throughout pre-World-to-Come history to emulating previous idolatrous empires).
But the recurring arguments from the Canaanites miss the point, you know. The much earlier Hebrew in various songs sung loyally and in true detail by the various tribes for so long was much more important. Thanks to Rabbi Lapin for a great article from great meditation (focus). It shines for we few in the nations who take an appropriately humble look.
[PS Metaphors and allegories are okay sometimes, but other times, they often reek of of sanguineous decay.]
You chrstians who are daily cutting each other to shreds and disproving each others beliefs
Dont worry I can take the time to do it to you too.
Without invoking the "new testament?" Or without assuming it's true? I'm pretty sure you're gonna eventually say "Isaiah means thus and such because THE WORD OF GOD in Paul's epistle to so-and-so says so." What if you can't do that?
Plus I think you're missing the point that all forms of chrstianity have done nothing but disprove one another from day one (including yours). And since all criticisms are valid, no form can be true.
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