Do the Bible and Ayn Rand's 'Atlas Shrugged' Share Common Ground?

Christian Post ^ | 06/06/2013 | Alex Murashko

[SeekAndFind]

RE; A successful life.

OK, Genghis Khan and his followers and his descendants consider ruling over a vast territory a successful life regardless of how many people were slaughtered in the process. So did Tamerlane ( who the Boston terrorist was named for ).

What objective rule in Ayn Rand’s atheistic worldview tells us that they are morally inferior to Ayn Rand?

RE; Morality is a very vague term. I don’t know if you are asking about the morality [I would prefer the term “philosophy”, but I’m not sure if that’s what you mean] she preached or the morality she lived.

I am talking about Morality AS IT RELATES to her foundational Philosophy.

Ayn Rand’s idea of a “successful life” (your words, not mine ) is a “morality” based on her philosophy. I want to know ON WHAT FOUNDATION, ON WHAT BASIS, she makes this prescriptive for the rest of the world when her entire basis for our existence is built on our all being formed from the random and chance mutation of molecules.

What difference does being an Ayn Rand, a Mother Theresa or a Hitler make when we are all going to the same final destination anyway?

One man’s idea of what is successful is another man’s idea of what isn’t. THEN WHAT? WHO GETS TO DECIDE WHAT IS RIGHT WHEN THERE IS NO ULTIMATE MORAL JUDGE?

How do you know that double dribbling is a violation when no rule book of basketball tells you it is? One can simply decide that it isn’t a violation and play the same game.

RE: Now, if you are asking about her philosophy, then what I find most compelling is the virtue of selfishness. That each human’s only moral obligation is to himself and to those to whom he freely obligates himself [family, friends, etc.]. She believed that the modern concept of sacrifice was morally corrupt.

Yes, that’s what she believes, but her belief about what is right and wrong NOT my issue. She has her morality — which is HER concept of selfishness.

I want to know on what FOUNDATIONAL BASIS her concept of selfishness is better than other people’s concept that are opposed to hers.

For instance, who gets to ultimately decide ( based on her ultimate worldview) that her idea of what is virtuous is superior or better than that of the Taliban?

RE: There are some aspects of her philosophy I strongly disagree with. Abortion is one.

Let’s say you are a PURE Ayn Randian ( with her atheistic philosophy as foundation )... why is abortion evil and why is it good or neutral ( in her case )?

All Ayn Rand can say is that good and evil are simply “labels” one attaches to an act. There can’t be any REAL good or REAL evil in her foundational worldview and anyone who disagrees with her is not really right or wrong. He is simply expressing a PREFERENCE, much like I prefer vanilla and you prefer chocolate.

RE: OK. I probably haven’t answered your question, but it was thoughtful and I tried to provide a thoughtful

Up to this point, all you’ve done is fail to defend her worldview. All you’ve done is confirmed what I’ve believed in in looking at personal idea of what is right and what is wrong — which is this -— HER PHILOSOPHY IS INCOHERENT.

Don’t get me wrong, this is not to say that there is no value in her philosophy.

All I am saying is you cannot accept its foundation based on her atheism.

It has to be based on something more solid, otherwise her structure collapses.

[BfloGuy]

I gave you two examples of books you might find interesting and instructive. Neither would conflict with your religion-based “worldview”, but would give you an idea of Rand’s though process. I’m not about to do that work for you.

[SeekAndFind]

You don’t need to do any work for me. Ayn Rand’s atheism NECESSARILY makes her philosophy foundation-less.