Posted on 03/15/2013 8:38:27 AM PDT by Colofornian
“I am simply trying to understand the whole “my Jesus is better than your Jesus” game that Christians play with each other.”
It’s not a game, because souls are at stake. We’re told to be on guard against those who preach another gospel, or another Christ, which is exactly what Mormonism does. So, once you recognize that is the situation, warning others about Mormonism’s false teaching is imperative.
” If you want to put your faith in Jesus Ruiz, be my guest. But why don’t you come to Sunday worship with me and learn about a Jesus who can actually change your life?”
I don’t want to put my faith in a gardener, I was just using that as an example to highlight the foolishness of believing everyone who says they believe in “Jesus” at face value. Believing in Jesus Ruiz is obviously far different than believing in Jesus Christ, the Son of God. Believing in the Mormon Jesus is different also, just in a subtler way.
Geeze Us!
We aren’t tearing anyone down.
For years I always assumed LDS was just another denomination in The Body of Christ.
They aren’t and they are clear on that.
Just shining some light on a religion that is exclusive and condemns all other religions as “Whores of Babylon, Dark Religions, etc., etc, etc.
See my next post for a very illuminating demonstration of what they think they know and what you think and didn’t before.
Many Mormons often give the initial impression that Christian churches are viewed with a certain level of favouritism by the Mormon faith. Zealous young Mormon missionaries, when encountering potential proselytites into the Church, will often side step what Mormonism really thinks of other churches by saying something like: "there is truth in all religions". However, the truth is that Mormonism views other churches as false religions void of all authority. In fairness to individual Mormons, it must be said that some do not really realise the extent to which the Mormon Church disagrees with Christian denominations, or, at the very least, not really thought through the implications of what they do know. The quotes in this article are all from Mormon sources.
The first reference is very important as it is from the Book of Mormon itself:
"Behold there are save two churches only; the one is the Church of the Lamb of God [i.e.. the Mormon Church] and the other is the church of the devil [i.e.. the Christian Church]; wherefore whosoever belongeth not to the church of the lamb of God belongeth to that great church; which is the mother of abominations; and she is the whore of all the earth." (The Book of Mormon, 1 Nephi 14:10).
The following source is also very important as it is a key belief of the Mormon Church and is one of the first things that the Mormon missionaries will teach prospective converts. In the first vision, when Joseph Smith went out into the woods to pray to ask God which Christian denomination he should join, he explains that God allegedly commanded him:
"...I must join none of them [Christian Churches], for they were all wrong...that all their creeds were an abomination in His sight" (Joseph Smith History 1:19).
The popular Mormon book A Marvelous Work and a Wonder, by LeGrand Richards contains many derogatory remarks against the churches and their beliefs. Some of these are found in chapter 4 headed: "False Doctrines and Universal Apostasy". Excerpts from this chapter follow below:
"Erroneous Teachings of Christian Churches...One erroneous teaching of many Christian churches is: By faith alone we are saved. This false doctrine would relieve man of the responsibility of his acts..." (p. 24).
"Again, there is the erroneous doctrine of predestination...In his effort to destroy truth, Satan could hardly have hoped to deceive men more effectively and completely than to take from them, through the teaching of such doctrines, a consciousness of their own responsibilities." (p. 25).
"There is a also the false teaching of one heaven and one hell..." (p. 25).
In chapter 2 of the same book, the God of the Christian Church is mocked under the heading "The Strange Gods of Christendom". Page 13 likens the Christian God to the pagan 'gods' (plural!) that Moses and the Israelites met in the desert:
"These are but typical examples of the gods worshipped by Christian churches in the nineteenth century. Here are gods that Moses told the Israelites they would encounter as they scattered among the nations - gods "which neither see, not hear, not eat, or smell." (p. 13).
Other similar quotes from Mormon sources follow below:
"...orthodox Christian views of God are Pagan rather than Christian." (Mormon Doctrine of Deity by B.H. Roberts, p.116).
"...the God whom the 'Christians' worship is a being of their own creation..." (Apostle Charles W. Penrose, Journal of Discourses 23:243).
"The Christian world, so called, are heathens as to their knowledge of the salvation of God." (Brigham Young, Journal of Discourses 8:171).
"The Christian world, I discovered, was like the captain and crew of a vessel on the ocean without a compass, and tossed to and fro whithersoever the wind listed to blow them. When the light came to me, I saw that all the so-called Christian world was grovelling in darkness." (Brigham Young, Journal of Discourses 5:73).
"What! Are Christians ignorant? Yes, as ignorant of the things of God as the brute best." (John Taylor, Journal of Discourses 13:225).
"What does the Christian world know about God? Nothing...Why so far as the things of God are concerned, they are the veriest fools; they know neither God nor the things of God." (John Taylor, Journal of Discourses 13:225).
"Believers in the doctrines of modern Christendom will reap damnation to their souls (Bruce R. McConkie, Mormon Doctrine, p.177).
"...brother Joseph B. Nobles once told a Methodist priest, after hearing him describe his god, that the god they worshiped was the "Mormon's" Devil-a being without a body, whereas our God has a body, parts and passions." (Brigham Young, Journal of Discourses 5:331).
"The Roman Catholic, Greek, and Protestant church, is the great corrupt, ecclesiastical power, represented by great Babylon...." (Orson Pratt, Orson Pratt, Writings of an Apostle, "Divine Authenticity," no.6, p.84).
"...all the priests who adhere to the sectarian religions of the day with all their followers, without one exception, receive their portion with the devil and his angels." (The Elders Journal, Joseph Smith Jr., editor, vol.1, no.4, p.60).
"...all other churches are entirely destitute of all authority from God; and any person who receives baptism or the Lord's supper from their hands will highly offend God, for he looks upon them as the most corrupt people." (Orson Pratt, The Seer, p. 255).
"Both Catholics and Protestants are nothing less than the "whore of Babylon" whom the lord denounces by the mouth of John the Revelator as having corrupted all the earth by their fornication's and wickedness." (Orson Pratt, The Seer, p.255).
"Brother Taylor has just said that the religions of the day were hatched in hell. The eggs were laid in hell, hatched on its borders, and then kicked on to the earth." (Brigham Young, Journal of Discourses 6:176).
The Only True Church?
The next few quotes demonstrate how the Mormon Church sees itself as the "only true Church", with membership being essential to salvation. By implication, in the eyes of Mormonism, all other churches must therefore be false:
"We must come unto Christ by being baptized into his Church. Only in the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints can we find all the truths that will help us return to our Father in Heaven. Only in the true Church of Christ can we find the authority to perform the necessary gospel ordinances." (The Restoration: Study Guide, p. 5).
"And also those to whom these commandments were given, might have power to lay the foudation of this church, and to bring it forth out of obscurity and out of darkness, the only true and living church upon the face of the whole earth..." (Doctrines and Covenants 1:30)
"There is no salvation outside The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints..." (Bruce McConkie, Mormon Doctrine, p. 670).
"The Lord provided that salvation should come through his gospel, functioning through his church...But is there such a church?...Is there such a church upon the earth? Until 1830 there was not. It had been lost through the falling away we have described in this pamphlet. In 1830 the Almighty restored his church to earth again." (Which Church is Right?, p. 17).
"This is the only true church ...This is not a church. This is the Church of Jesus Christ. There are churches of men all over the land and they have great cathedrals, synagogues, and other houses of worship running into the hundreds of millions of dollars. They are churches of men. They teach the doctrines of men, combined with the philosophies and ethics and other ideas and ideals that men have partly developed and partly found in sacred places and interpreted for themselves" (Spencer W. Kimball, Teachings of Spencer W. Kimball, p.421)
Attack on the Bible
Another way that the Mormon Churchs seeks to undermine the beliefs of Christianity is to attempt to take away its authority by spreading doubt about the Bible, the source of doctrine for the Church:
"The Bible of the Old World has come to us from the manuscripts of antiquity - manuscripts which passed through the hands of uninspired men who changed many parts to suit their own doctrinal ideas. Deletions were common, and, as it now stands, many plain and precious portions and many covenants of the Lord have been lost. As a consequence, those who rely upon it alone stumble and are confused..." (Bruce R. McConkie, "Come: Hear the Voice of the Lord," The Ensign, December 1985, p 55).
"What shall we say then, concerning the Bible's being a sufficient guide? Can we rely upon it in its present known corrupted state, as being a faithful record of God's word? We all know that but a few of the inspired writings have descended to our times,... What few have come down to our day have been mutilated, changed, and corrupted, in such a shameful manner that no two manuscripts agree....Add all this imperfection to the uncertainty of the translation, and who, in his right mind, could, for one moment , suppose the Bible in its present form to be a perfect guide? Who knows that even one verse of the whole Bible has escaped pollution, so as to convey the same sense now that it did in the original?" (Orson Pratt, Divine Authenticity of the Book of Mormon, p. 47).
"The Church [the LDS Church] reveres and respects the Bible, but recognises that it is not a complete nor entirely accurate record..." (Holy Bible, King James Version. Located at the back of the LDS KJV of the Bible, p. 624).
"the various versions of the Bible do not accurately record or perfectly preserve the words, thoughts, and interests of the original inspired authors." (B.R. McConkie, Mormon Doctrine, 2nd ed., p.383.).
"The gathering together of the few scattered manuscripts which compose what is now termed the Bible, was the work of uninspired man...Among the vast number of professedly inspired manuscripts, scattered through the world, man, poor, weak, ignorant man, assumed the authority to select a few, which, according to his frail judgment, he believed or conjectured were of God, but the balance not agreeing, perhaps, with his peculiar notions of divine inspiration, were rejected as spurious. The few, selected from the abundance, were finally arranged into one volume, divided into chapter and verse, and named the Bible." (Orson Pratt, Divine Authenticity of the Book of Mormon, p. 3).
"Through the Prophet Joseph Smith,...we learn that the Bible does not contain all that God revealed anciently, nor did it arrive in our day without inaccuracies." (Kent P. Jackson, Ensign, 2/95, p. 63).
"...the Book of Mormon remains secure, unchanged and unchangeable, ...But with the Bible it was not and is not so....it was once in the sole and exclusive care and custody of an abominable organization, founded by the devil himself, likened prophetically unto a great whore, whose great aim and purpose was to destroy the souls of men in the name of religion. In these hands it ceased to be the book it once was." (Bruce R. McConkie, The Joseph Smith Translation, pp. 12, 13).
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