Posted on 03/02/2013 7:16:33 PM PST by John Leland 1789
I am not too sure i understand at all because Fundamentalists and Evangelicals are just more words that are Greek to me.
How ever i assume that the fundamentalists would be referred to as the church, and the Evangelicals are preaching the Gospel that the church should
be preaching.
I believe that Jesus was the son of God and was killed on the cross and rose from the grave and was glorified and now sits at the right hand of God but i have no church.
I also believe what he said in his own words happen to be the only Gospel we have.
Many people try to water down the Bible in order not to offend some one, others will try to make it more severe in order to keep what they believe to be undesirables out.
Some of the apostles went to great length to make the members of their church understand the importance of living the gospel they were commissioned to preach.
In this day of greed they are not only trying to make every one believers but also trying to make every one members of their church.
Matt 23
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For they bind heavy burdens which are grievous to be borne, and lay them on men’s shoulders; but they themselves will not lift one of their little fingers to help them.
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Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you travel across sea and land to make one convert, and when he becomes one, you make him twice as much a child of hell as yourselves.
The object of the church was not to get every one to join the church, (in fact not just any one could join the church) but to preach the gospel OF jesus.
So if i understand what the thread is saying, it seems to me that the fundamentalists may have a better concept of how a church should be organized.
But the Evangelicals are doing what Jesus said to do and that is to preach the gospel, and maybe failing in running a well organized church.
Good point. Maybe I should have said, “Southern church ladies don’t like it when people take offense.”
Well said.
If I call them heathens I am a Fundamentalist.
If I call them the non church ed I’m an Evangelical.
Wait.........I need a broader brush.
John 15:19 If you belonged to the world, it would love you as its own. As it is, you do not belong to the world, but I have chosen you out of the world. That is why the world hates you.
I think our big challenge as Christians is to be in the world, but not of the world. We should be there because the world needs us. It needs to see people living Christ-like lives and proclaiming the truth in love.
We should not be there because we have our hat in hand, hoping to collect some respect from the “cool” kids. Our payoff is from the Lord, not the cool kids.
Yep, left a church a couple years back.
They said I was a hater.
Funny how they label, yet if I label what God has clearly labeled..........
What you said. (Jesus)
Actually, good manners are based upon Christian principles.
Unfortunately, a worldly system has twisted good manners into tools of arrogance.
Little Mrs McGillicutty approaches the Church doors for her Bible Study. She has confessed her sins and is in fellowship through faith in Christ.
Sgt Smuckatelli sees Mrs McGillicutty approaching the doors and realizes that in her 90 lb frame, she may be challenged to open the door with a 20 lb door closer attached.
Mrs McGillicutty needs to overcome the hurdle of opening the door and might be distracted from her faith through Christ, by thinking she has to open the door by herself, thinking slips into a thinking mode independent of God.
With good manners, Sgt Smuckatelli realizes he has no problem opening the door and proceeds to open the door for Mrs McGillicutty, relieving her of the possible distraction.
This would be good manners.
Conversely, if the Sgt felt he wanted to perform a good work, so that Mrs McGillicutty would be appreciative of him and his good work, but he does this independent of faith in Christ, then Sgt McGillicutty becomes guilty of a sin of arrogance. Depending on how he reacts with Mrs McGillicutty, he might even cause her to fall out of fellowship.
Good manners focuses on Christ first and many times will not receive a reward prior to the first death, nor even recognition. Arrogance frequently attempts to counterfeit good manners as works independent of faith through Christ, and as such simply misses the mark of His Plan in each of our lives (sin).
You could always give offense to Clint, bless his li’l ol’ pea-pickin’ heart.
Briefly, "Evangelicals" of the 18th and 19th centuries were fundamentalists. The word "Fundamentalist" began to be used (after 1925 especially) for those continuing in that expression of doctrine and manner of Christian life, when those calling themselves "evangelicals" began to be ultra-inclusive, and more worldly in their outward expression.
when those calling themselves “evangelicals” began to be ultra-inclusive, and more worldly in their outward expression.
I would say that that would be one illustration of it nowadays. Yes.
I saw a church advertized on a billboard once as “we’re not too hot, we’re not too cold, we’re just right.” The irony was hilarious! Guess they’d never read Revelation.
1)Belives in the deity of Christ.
2)Believes that Christ came down in the flesh, dwelt among us, died on the cross, was buried, and rose from the grave to sit at the right hand of God the Father.
3)That the word of God (Bible) is totally reliable and the final authority in matters of faith. No extra-biblical revelation is needed.
4)That we have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God. And that by faith and repentance we are totally justified by what Christ did on the cross.
Was actually making a point rather than soliciting help. But hey I'm teachable. :-)
Be that as it may you drew a comparison with Catholics. I've had many a discussion here on FR and Catholics tell me they have scriptural backing for their more "traditional, extra biblical" system. So again I ask, rhetorically "Don’t most Christians believe they’re Biblical?"
Love can also mean correction where warranted. That would be true love, in a Christian sense.
God loved us so much that He sent His son to die. If we love someone and want them to avoid eternal damnation, we correct them.
Remember Matthew 7.
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