Posted on 06/22/2012 5:12:13 AM PDT by Colofornian
ah...and you prefer the America hating communist...
How nice for you.
We’re not electing a Pope!
Why in the heck are you concerned with “heresy”?
We have a choice between Obama’s agenda to destroy America and Romney.
There are no other choices.
We’re not voting for a Pope.
Your concerns are misguided and misdirected.
I’m a conservative Roman Catholic, who supported both Gingrich and Santorum.
The notion of taking any action that isn’t 100% focused on ousting Obama, has no rational basis.
“How do conservative RCs vote for someone who is pro-abortion?”
1-By recognizing and accepting his conversion on the subject.
2-By recognizing that none of the Pro-Life Presidents since Roe vs. Wade have been able to change the nations abortion laws.
3-By recognizing the difference between being unable to change existing law, vs. Obama’s aggressive promotion of abortion, including late term abortion, infanticide, and abortions for minors, without parental consent.
However, getting churned up into a high-drama, foaming-at-the-mouth case of Romney Derangement Syndrome is something I would recommend against.
Its only result is liable to be giving the DUmmies something to laugh at (if DU had an "FR Funnies" series threads like this would get star billing).
It has become quite evident that the lengthy posts exposing MormonISM have been made not for purposes of trying to awaken Mormons but to defeat Mitt Romney in the primaries and now in the race for president. If the mainstream media do this, would you endorse that? A few short years ago you wouldn't have.
If you think long and hard about that, you might figure out there is a ‘bigotry’ wager running with such misuse of the Gospel of Salvation. I hope you DO think about it, long and hard, because this is getting disgusting to watch as people are manipulated to trash Mormons when it was claimed by the Inmans that we were exposing MormonISM to help Mormons awaken to the blasphemies in their religious system. Using that to attack Mitt Romney is hypocrisy writ large. Do you really want to be proud of such? Can you not see that is how you've been manipualted?
It has become quite evident that the lengthy posts exposing MormonISM have been made not for purposes of trying to awaken Mormons but to defeat Mitt Romney in the primaries and now in the race for president. If the mainstream media do this, would you endorse that? A few short years ago you wouldn't have.
If you think long and hard about that, you might figure out there is a ‘bigotry’ wager running with such misuse of the Gospel of Salvation. I hope you DO think about it, long and hard, because this is getting disgusting to watch as people are manipulated to trash Mormons when it was claimed by the Inmans that we were exposing MormonISM to help Mormons awaken to the blasphemies in their religious system. Using that to attack Mitt Romney is hypocrisy writ large. Do you really want to be proud of such? Can you not see that is how you've been manipulated?
I’m ashamed of you. Strop trying to use the Gospel of Grace in such a sleazy way.
When was Romney’s conversion?
Was it when he instituted $50 and free abortions?
Was it when he promoted embryonic stem cell research?
Just when was that enlightenment?
Can I throw in that the job title is Commander in Chief of the United States Armed Forces and that is the primary job responsibility.
It would be great if we had the option of someone who was a pro-life champion realistically taking on Obama, but we don’t. The reality is, unless drastic things happen, the next Commander in Chief will either be Obama or Romney. No one is riding in on a white horse to save us.
Facing this reality and the world we are in, I have to look at which of the two we can trust our soldiers lives to.
That really does make me ABO, but heck, I would vote for an Illegal Alien, Transvestite, Buddhist, Reptilian over Obama.
We don't elect 'rulers' or 'teachers', we elect a Commander in Chief of the United States Armed Forces.
If some really believed in grace and faith, they would be praying for God to guide whomever is elected and that they have a true conversion instead of posting Landover Baptist material over and over.
Too bad NO Romney nor Obama have ever served in any type of US military capacity.
We are left with two losers to choose from.
True, but one is not openly hostile towards our military and hasn’t shown they will put them in harms way for whatever political de’jour headline they need or to help their Muslim Brotherhood friends take over another country.
Careful now, you might be warned of impending Lightening to strike me for blaspheming the obsquious use of The Gospel of Grace to attack Milt Rominy.
“When was Romney’s conversion?”
20 February, 2010 6:17 a.m.
What a horses ass question!
He currently acknowledges he is pro-life.
The timing is not relevant.
You asked “how” I could support him, and my answer is that I believe his current position.
THAT is all that is important on the Pro-Life question.
And it is certainly sufficient to gain my support of Romney over Obama.
How can YOU do ANYTHING that doesn’t maximize the opportunity for Obama’s defeat?
Since we only have Romney’s very liberal record as Governor of Massachusetts to go on, one can never be sure.
But if he does happen to put our troops in “harms way for whatever political de’jour headline” he can always just give it an etch-a-sketch shake and start all over again.
Is your agenda to stop Christian resistance to Mormonism?
Do you do that as a Mormon, or just to fight Christianity?
That wasn’t the question. The question was how can you as a conservative RC vote for someone who is pro-abortion?
If you answer is that Romney is not as bad as BHO, that is answer. It is not an answer to ask me why I wouldn’t do everything possible to get rid of BHO. It is quite a leap, to make those equal.
However, I do know when Romney changed his position on life issue. (Notice the 2012 position, he is not pro-life)
Here is the time line:
Romney’s evolution on abortion:
Romney said I am not comfortable with my status on abortion and want to be called pro-life. (2012)
Romney’s government health care provides $50 to free abortions. (current)
Romney appointed pro-choice judges to his court, they are still serving. (current)
Romney said Roe v Wade should be overturned and left to the states, so that makes me pro-life. (2011)
Romney supports stem cell research. (2004)
Romney said abortion should be kept legal, safe and rare and will honor that commitment. (2002)
Romney said I am committed to preserving abortions rights. (2002)
Romney whether you are for abortion or not is relevant, the individual should decide. (1999)
Romney said is a debate with Kennedy that he was more pro-choice than Kennedy. (1994)
Romney was applauded by plan parenthood for his pro-abortion stand. (1994)
Wanna bet? (not really, as I don't wager)
As bad as Mormonism is for the candidate, if he were a 'good Mormon', it might be somewhat palatable... might be overlooked considering the present administration... But add 'mormon' to pro-choice and pro-homo, and this guy is simply a non-starter for any Christian I know.
The 'Pro-Life' cause is the single biggest issue, bar none, which will remove the Christian Right from the Romney cheering section. It is, and has been the single biggest immovable principle to the Christian Right, and if they elect this guy, with the record he has, I will be ashamed of my brethren. And they will rue the day, mark my words, as the principle of Life will be thrown under the bus from that very day forward.
There are pro-life candidates available, and the Christian Right has the singular ability to lift them out of the cheap seats. That is what I will hope for, and I will be doing my part.
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