Fr. Marcel Guarnizo Defends Himself Against Accusers (Why he denied Communion to a Lesbian)

Crisis ^ | 03/15/2012

[SatinDoll]

Thanks for your sympathy. The fact is, I’ve known many homosexuals of both sexes and find they are no better or worse than any run-of-the-mill human beings.

Stories like this one make me suspect that the world is upside down and the Roman Catholic church is on the slide.

[cloudmountain]

The history of the Church shows that it moves slowly. Never enough to satisfy you or me.
I'll bet anything that 20 years from now, we'll have an entirely different perspective. Look how long it took to canonize Scripture, for instance, or to formally declare just what the Trinity means.

I agree with you 100%. However, I DO applaud the Catholic Church's slowness. It works for me, now that I am old and my brain has cleared up a bit from its fog of the early years of life. I think that the deliberation is one of the strong "selling" points for the Church. Nothing happens without a whole lot of deliberation, prayer and consultations. The bishops of the world have to be consulted when anything of doctrine and morals come up in the way of change.

I think that the unity of the Church is what Jesus wanted. I think division only weakens all of us Christians. There ARE divisions in Islam but darn few (less that five, I believe).

My prayers for this priest. He's taken a lot of heat. He knows he's right. I know he's right. God bless him.

[cloudmountain]

Barbara Johnson is known to be a Buddhist, and marching in and declaring that the woman accompanying her was her lover purposefully set up a situation where the priest had every right to refuse her communion.
Her only reason for committing such a scene at her mother’s funeral was to embarrass and discredit the Roman Catholic Church AND I suspect to childishly and horribly disrespect the memory of her deceased mother.
This was a full-on assault on religious and conservative culture - Barbara Johnson displayed no tolerance for the dignity or feelings of others and reminds me of my own experience with radical homosexuals 35-years ago.
I was walking on a city street in Portland, Oregon, near the Pioneer Courthouse when accosted by two men. They crowded me agaisnt a store front, spit on me and shouted that I was “breeder shit”.
From the incident with Barbara Johnson, it is clear that radical queers haven’t changed at all.

You are 100% right about Johnson's probable motives. She was cruising for her cause, deliberately setting up the priest for that confrontation. Homosexuality ISN'T ever going to be normalized...because it IS abnormal, down to the bones of our human DNA.

As for the two men who accosted you, they deserved to be reported to the police, charged with assault. With THEIR attitude they would end up in the POKEY, where they deserve to be for their assault on you.

Radicals of any ilk are scarey. Part of the scarey is that they are emotional retards who can be swayed with the emotion of the moment. That's how lynch mobs start.

The next time you feel a scarey moment, get outta Dodge...hit the road and run. Discretion IS the better part of valor.

[SatinDoll]

Actually it wasn’t a scarey moment, because I probably could’ve kicked both their arses!

I’ve known for a very long time that homosexuality is a personality disorder with sexual identity as a fixation. Most homosexual men are, deep down, terrified of women. I pity them. The present attempt to force others to accept their mental and emotional disorder as normal is pathetic and doomed to failure.

It takes real courage to look deep inside and face one’s demons.

[boatbums]

I'll take Father Marcel Guarnizo’s word about what really happened over Ms. Johnson's any day. That he was suspended is outrageous! That fact alone will spur more rabble-rousers to test the limits and intimidate ALL upstanding Christian congregations. We MUST be prepared. Forewarned is forearmed.

[infowarrior]

Barbara Johnson is known to be a Buddhist, and marching in and declaring that the woman accompanying her was her lover purposefully set up a situation where the priest had every right to refuse her communion.

You've erred a bit here. It isn't that he had a *right* to refuse the Eucharist, he had an *OBLIGATION* to do so...

the infowarrior

[SatinDoll]

Yes. I knew that. Slip of the tongue, er, fingers.

[onedoug]

The Pope needs to intervene in this as it seems his Bishops are either unconcerned or “too busy” with other matters.

But he won’t. Fine church this RCC.

[stpio]

The persecution is going to get so much worse. Stand up
for the Truth. Father was right in what he did.

It’s up at http://www.spiritdaily.com

Father Guarnizo is no longer with the Archdiocese.

“I saw souls falling into hell like snowflakes.”
St. Teresa of Avila