Posted on 03/12/2012 9:46:01 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
I am still surprised when people reject critical thinking.
I was last week, but I am feeling better now.
You haven’t given one verifiable fact or point.
I am beginning to think your just delusional and an atheist lemming.
Independent thought is a good thing. Respond back if you actually have some verifiable links to what you consider the truth.
Discuss the issues all you want, but do not make it personal.
Of course there is. In fact the very father of American conservatism, Russell Kirk was himself a "conservative historian." Some other good conservative historians are Paul Kengor, Bruce Herschensohn, Niall Ferguson, and Victor Davis Hanson. There are many versions of history. There is conservative history and liberal history. Liberal history teaches things like FDR's New Deal saved us from the Great Depression. Conservatives know that many liberal lies are taught as "history."
“Discuss the issues all you want, but do not make it personal.”
This is addressed to me? Could you please give an example of me making something personal in this thread?
Historians either tell the truth or they don’t, there are not “many versions”. As for FDR and the New Deal, that should be taught as “social studies” as we lack the perspective to call it history. Historical research used to be about understanding the past, all the books you see now about “history” that happened 5, 10, 50 years ago is about the almighty dollar and publishing for fame.
“Independent thought is a good thing.”
Yes, it is. And you don’t need me to help you with it. The information is there, what are you going to do about it?
Because I called David Barton a hack and pointed to some quick resources that already had the information spelled out, it has been assumed that I am a liberal, unpatriotic, atheist, troll. The conclusions are illogical and poor discourse.
Who am I? I am a Believer, a military wife with extreme conservative political leanings, a homeschooler to six beautiful children (one soon to be a Marine), and a PhD in Early American history. And, of course, I am Viking!
My bad. I apologize for the personal attack. Thank you for bringing it to my attention.
And posts 45, 55, 70, 74, and 79 - those are examples of what?
I already researched and cannot find the proof of what you claim...
I do my homework and the extra credit.
Maybe you need to dig a little bit deeper.
Yes and the guideline on the Religion Forum is that when one poster in a sidebar has been warned, all Freepers on the sidebar should consider themselves warned.
From the American Historical Association Statement on Standards of Professional Conduct:
“All historians believe in honoring the integrity of the historical record. They do not fabricate evidence. Forgery and fraud violate the most basic foundations on which historians construct their interpretations of the past. An undetected counterfeit undermines not just the historical arguments of the forger, but all subsequent scholarship that relies on the forger’s work. Those who invent, alter, remove, or destroy evidence make it difficult for any serious historian ever wholly to trust their work again.”
David Barton violated that trust starting with his book Myth of Separation. It is true that there is no “separation of church and state” in the Constitution, but we didn’t need David Barton to tell us that, we have primary sources at our fingertips: http://press-pubs.uchicago.edu/founders/tocs/toc.html . David Barton doesn’t advance America’s Christian heritage, he makes it up, he twists it, he makes the truth harder for the layman to uncover.
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