Posted on 03/11/2012 4:27:55 PM PDT by Heart-Rest
Says you. I was baptized a Catholic and that’s what I am!
Amen!
Interesting statement. Who penned the NT? Who was Matthew? Who was Jude? Who was Mark? Who was John, for that matter?
LOL. Just not next to me please.
11These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so.
2 Timothy 3:16
16All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
So were Martin Luther, Henry VIII and Jean Calvin. They too rejected the authority of the Pope. I do not reject your claim to believe what you choose or your reasons for doing so, only your choice to incorrectly brand it.
As I stated, the NT writings were in existence and considered authoritative in the first centuries because they were written by the Apostles or those close to them. The early fathers did not consider themselves or their traditions above the Apostles' writings.
Matthew 23:9
9And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven.
Why does God love the rich more than the poor? They can afford to pay and have there loved one get out of purgatory sooner because they can have masses($) and novena's(%)said and candles lit ($) for their dead.
I use to have to knee before a statue of Mary, pray, sing and praise her.
Daily, Daily Sing to Mary
Daily, daily sing to Mary,
Sing, my soul, her praises due.
All her feasts, her actions worship
With the heart's devotion true.
Lost in wond’ring contemplation,
Be her Majesty confess’d.
Call her Mother, call her Virgin,
Happy Mother, Virgin blest.
She is mighty to deliver.
Call her, trust her lovingly.
When the tempest rages round thee,
She will calm the troubled sea.
Gifts of heaven she has given,
Noble Lady, to our race.
She, the Queen, who decks her subjects
With the light of God's own grace.
Sing, my tongue, the Virgin's trophies
Who for us her Maker bore.
For the curse of old inflicted,
Peace and blessing to restore.
Sing in songs of peace unending,
Sing the world's majestic Queen.
Weary not nor faint in telling.
All the gifts she gives to men.
Prayer
Consecration to Mother Mary
My Queen and my Mother, I give myself entirely to you; and to show my devotion to you, I consecrate to you this day my eyes, my ears, my mouth, my heart, my whole being without reserve. Therefore, good Mother, as I am your own, keep and guard me as your property and possession. Amen.
It seems like the Obama administration wants nothing more than to divide the Catholics and Protestants. We Protestants have your back with what obama is trying to force on the Catholic Church. We probably don't want to help him divide us. We each will stand before God and be judged. I'm relying completely on Jesus death on the cross, because I know my church, my works, and no other person will get me into heaven.
Jesus said to him, “I am the way, and the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father but through. John 14:6
So, I’ll need to reconcile this against what the Orthodox say, as there is great debate as to who is really responsible. I know you say I should believe you, and the Orothodox say I should believe them. Where do I begin my arduous study of the facts? Apparently, I must search through hundreds of years of documents to find the truth.
Not sure I have the access I need to these documents to do this. I think I’ll just follow the Bible and the Holy Spirit.
Take care.
I'm sure you're trying to make a point here but I don't know what it is.
It is also a petition that God take care of our daily needs. To quote from the Lutheran Small Catechism: Give us this day our daily bread.
What does this mean?--Answer.
God gives daily bread, even without our prayer, to all wicked men; but we pray in this petition that He would lead us to know it, and to receive our daily bread with thanksgiving.
What is meant by daily bread?--Answer.
Everything that belongs to the support and wants of the body, such as meat, drink, clothing, shoes, house, homestead, field, cattle, money, goods, a pious spouse, pious children, pious servants, pious and faithful magistrates good government, good weather, peace, health, discipline, honor, good friends, faithful neighbors, and the like.
Of course, this can have more than one meaning. We need both our daily bodily needs and spiritual needs met, and only the Father can provide them. He has through the merits of His Son, Jesus Christ, and not our merits.
Jesus was predicted over 450 times in the Old Testament. The Berean Jews in Thessalonica searched the Septuagint to prove to themselves that Jesus was the Messiah that was prophesied. They were not searching writings that had not been written, circulated, or found to be inerrant.
Well, I had a priest inform me that I was damned to hell because I wouldn’t pray to Mary. He told me that my refusal to pray to Mary meant that my prayers wouldn’t be answered, and that God had a very strict “Like me, like my friends” policy, and that if I did not pray to Mary, God would ignore me and banish me from heaven. Also he tried to tell me that Mary was the only person born without original sin, and that nothing in the Old testament happened.
That said, I am not anti-Catholic, but I am anti people who claim to be good Catholics but support people who arer all for partial-birth aborions. Actually I’m anti people who support Partial birth abortions period, but I digress.
What offends me the most about your post was that it seems to say that unless you are Catholic, you are anti-Catholic, and that is simply not true.
HR,
As I wrote, I’m happy for you. I have nothing against Catholics and wish you the best. I’m thankful for the foundation of faith laid in my early life by the Catholic church. It wasn’t the whole Gospel of Grace, but most else was there.
Considered authoritative by who and how were the very real disagreements resolved?
I see where one of your antagonists has even said, "I found Jesus outside the church.". Silly. Like a dairy farmer going to 7-11 to buy a gallon of milk.
They were considered by the early church as being authoritative i.e. they were to submit to the writings of the Apostles as well as the OT.
Heart-Rest — Good testimony. I believe that there are two books that should be included in the Bible that were both “contenders” at the various Councils but lost out in the final selection.
One is the Didache http://www.earlychristianwritings.com/text/didache-roberts.html And this Epistle of Branabas http://www.earlychristianwritings.com/barnabas.html There are coorelations of multipe verses of the Didache and this Espistle of Baranbas. I consider all other “Barnabas” gospels and espistles as gnostic in origin and thus worth ignoring (except under the cavaet ‘know your enemy’)
And Barnabas did accompany Paul on several journeys.
another much referred examination of the Didache is at: http://www.bswett.com/1998-01Didache.html
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