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Posted on 02/05/2012 2:58:27 PM PST by marshmallow
I tell you this: if you really knew and understood, you'd hunger and thirst for the Blessed Sacrament to such an extent that you couldn't become a Catholic fast enough.
Do you think that idols cannot have a strong addictive appeal? Do you think that a thing meant by God for a good purpose cannot be turned into an idol? Catholics have made the sacrament into an idol. You have a very strong desire to worship a piece of bread and a cup of wine that is meant as a symbol of Christ's body broken for us and as a symbol of His blood shed for us and in His own words it's PURPOSE being to REMEMBER Him by.
A strong desire to worship an idol can be drummed up by the demons of false worship. Idol worshipers experience highly euphoric and seemingly spiritual highs. Remember the euphoria that people had when they worshiped Hitler and again will have multiplied when the people of the world worship the anti Christ? It is a euphoria that is extremely strong and extremely addicting. It is spiritual in nature and the worshiper thinks that they are worshiping a god. My point being that a strong desire towards an object or person that causes one to want to worship and gives the worshiper a seemingly spiritual "high" is experienced by all false worship that is backed by the evil one. So this experience is not the qualifier as to the authenticity thereof being truly inspired by The LORD God Almighty. That is why we must hold all experience up to The Word of God to know if it is authentically of God.
The answer that you gave, equating Christ and the worship of Him with the worship of the Eucharist plainly shows that it isn't the living person of Christ Himself, seated at the right hand of The Father that you believe in and worship but rather a piece of bread and a little bit of wine. Your soul is greatly feared for.
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Numbers 21:8 And the LORD said unto Moses, Make thee a fiery serpent, and set it upon a pole: and it shall come to pass, that every one that is bitten, when he looketh upon it, shall live.
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2Kings 18:4 He removed the high places, and brake the images, and cut down the groves, and brake in pieces the brasen serpent that Moses had made: for unto those days the children of Israel did burn incense to it: and he called it Nehushtan.
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(Nehushtan means a thing of brass. Meaning that what they had turned into a thing to be worshiped that The LORD had ordained for another reason was merely just and only a brass thing.)
I did answer him. If you take it in the sense that God does, as expressed by de Monfort, God’s regard of the Blessed Virgin does not take away anything from Himself. God alone is worshipped. God alone is worshipped by the Blessed Virgin.
God SUBJECTS HIMSELF to the Blessed Virgin, because it is His Most Holy Will to do so. No one can subject God to anything/anyone. Herein lies the difference.
Do you not understand the difference between asking a living person to pray for us and praying to a person?
2676 This twofold movement of prayer to Mary has found a privileged expression in the Ave Maria:
2679 Mary is the perfect Orans (pray-er), a figure of the Church. When we pray to her, we are adhering with her to the plan of the Father, who sends his Son to save all men. Like the beloved disciple we welcome Jesus' mother into our homes, for she has become the mother of all the living. We can pray with and to her. The prayer of the Church is sustained by the prayer of Mary and united with it in hope.
http://www.vatican.va/archive/ccc_css/archive/catechism/p4s1c2a2.htm
Please don’t insult us by saying Catholics don’t pray to Mary when the Catholic catechism clearly states they do.
I quote myself:
“I tell you this: if you really knew and understood, you’d hunger and thirst for the Blessed Sacrament to such an extent that you couldn’t become a Catholic fast enough.”
My answer is the same, and I am certain of it.
I don’t deny this, but I must clear out of here....
"Preach the word; be instant in season, our of season; REPROVE, REBUKE, EXHORT with all longsuffering and DOCTRINE." 2 TIm. 4:2.
I'm not here to please you or the doctrines of devils foisted on the "faithful" as "truth". If you don't care for the rebukes, I suggest you read God's Word of truth. And I'm talking about more than the 4 verses every RCC memorizes for the cracker and wine.
Seems to be the only thing in your spotlight - and your life on FR. From the evidence of your posting history, one can conclude that without the Church to attack, you’d have no religion at all.
Do you work for Jay Carney?
Yes, well said, thank you.
One family, in communion of Holy Eucharist. One Lord, one faith, one baptism. Now and for eternity.
Christ victorious!
I pray to you Lauren:
Please pray for our enemies, those who attack Christ through His Church. Please pray that they, someday, realize the fullness of the Communion of Saints...
BTW: Who is Jay Carney?
I see that the answer is “no I have nothing else to my religion but posting attacks on the Church.”
Try preaching what you’re for instead of being obsessed with the Church. It exposes your weakness in your own faith.
It seems you’d do anything rather than explain and defend your own beliefs.
BTW: Jay Carney is your ally, you are compatriot enemies of the Church. Send him an email care/of Obama; you should be getting paid for your efforts.
Ok, I’m back. The basic problem is that Protestants see “praying to” someone as necessarily including worship, whereas Catholics don’t see it that way at all. We have the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass, which is the supreme form of worship, so we realize the difference between worship and veneration.
Sometimes, all “praying to” means is “talking to/with” Mother Mary and the Saints.
I do. I will.
And I pray thee do likewise. :-)
Ephesians 5:20 Giving thanks always for all things unto God and the Father in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ;
Romans 8:34 Who is he that condemneth? It is Christ that died, yea rather, that is risen again, who is even at the right hand of God, who also maketh intercession for us.
Hebrews 7:25 Wherefore he is able also to save them to the uttermost that come unto God by him, seeing he ever liveth to make intercession for them.
Cute play on words. Now go tell the Vatican what they meant.
Your insults make you a bad representative for your particular faith. I see no example of the true inner joy of Christianity in your posts.
What do you do for God that you don’t do for Mary?
Another key point, Lauren.
With the loss of true Christian worship, some lose all sense of the word. Almost anything becomes flatlanded into worship. Prayer is worship, bowing is worship, kneeling is worship.
Connected to this loss of the meaning of Christian worship is ignorance of what idolatry is. CB here even said Da Vinci and Michelangelo were idol makers and visitors to the Sistine Chapel are idolaters.
It’s most difficult to take such critics seriously. Oh well...
What you wrote is true, but there is more besides. Those quotations do not negate the importance of the Blessed Virgin and the Saints in the lives of Christians.
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