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German Catholic Priest Admits To 280 Counts Of Sexual Abuse
Business Insider ^ | 1/13/2012 | Sanya Khetani

Posted on 01/13/2012 10:31:42 AM PST by RnMomof7

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To: Religion Moderator

“Antisemitism is not allowed on this forum at all.”

Why is rabid antiCatholicism then?


181 posted on 01/17/2012 10:11:43 PM PST by narses
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To: Religion Moderator
Once again, many posters here in good conscience would say that "Catholics worship Mary" is a fact and would offer evidence to support it.
They are mind reading. Why is that allowed?
182 posted on 01/17/2012 10:12:34 PM PST by narses
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To: Religion Moderator

“To many others here, they are not dispositive.”

Word chopping, again there are opinions and there are facts. If the claim is that the RCC teaches that no one except a priest is allowed to read the Bible, that is a flat out falsehood. No room for error, or argument. It is a lie.


183 posted on 01/17/2012 10:14:17 PM PST by narses
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To: narses; Religion Moderator

I can offer evidence that Lizard People are controlling the Federal Reserve.


184 posted on 01/17/2012 10:15:07 PM PST by lastchance ("Nisi credideritis, non intelligetis" St. Augustine)
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To: lastchance

Well, and some things are not allowed - anti-semitism for example. Period. And others, rabid anti-Catholicism are protected speech.


185 posted on 01/17/2012 10:15:25 PM PST by narses
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To: lastchance
To avoid flame wars, you should simply say "You said that Catholics worship Mary."

If you said "You believe that Catholics worship Mary" I might let it ride because you did not attach it as a motive to another claim, e.g. "You hate Catholics because you believe Catholics worship Mary."

186 posted on 01/17/2012 10:16:56 PM PST by Religion Moderator
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To: narses

Ahh but Anti Catholicism is simply a another set of facts that we don’t agree with. Not opinion. Not belief. But alternate facts.

I still have not figured out how that works. Can we now state OPC believes “Jesus was a Nazi”?

If I state so, it is my fact and no evidence of it being a falsehood have to be taken into consideration.

Fun.


187 posted on 01/17/2012 10:19:32 PM PST by lastchance ("Nisi credideritis, non intelligetis" St. Augustine)
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To: Religion Moderator
Religion Moderator wrote:
I might let it ride because you did not attach it as a motive to another claim, e.g. "You hate Catholics because you believe Catholics worship Mary."...
Religion Moderator wrote:
I will not arbitrate between the sides.
Well, except when you do. No anti-semitism for example.
188 posted on 01/17/2012 10:19:50 PM PST by narses
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To: narses
For something to be "mind reading" on the Religion Forum it must be speaking of another Freeper, personally.

If I said "Calvinists hate icons" that would not be making it personal.

If I said "You hate icons" that would be making it personal.

189 posted on 01/17/2012 10:20:19 PM PST by Religion Moderator
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To: lastchance
Ahh but Anti Catholicism is simply a another set of facts that we don’t agree with...
Right. Very interesting.
190 posted on 01/17/2012 10:20:49 PM PST by narses
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To: Religion Moderator
For something to be "mind reading" on the Religion Forum it must be speaking of another Freeper, personally.
But slanderous lies about what a Catholic believes are OK, as long as the particular Catholic is not named. OTOH slanderous lies about Jewish belief, that is banned always. Right?
191 posted on 01/17/2012 10:22:42 PM PST by narses
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To: Religion Moderator

So I respectfully ask what is the difference between
the exchange I had with Dr. E and the example I gave?

Again. I explained the doctrine of Alter Christi and she wrote “Blasphemy.” and I wrote.

“You disagree with the doctrine because you believe it is blasphemy”


192 posted on 01/17/2012 10:23:25 PM PST by lastchance ("Nisi credideritis, non intelligetis" St. Augustine)
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To: narses

Those of us who are Catholic parents must not take it as being personal when someone writes we allow our children to be raped.


193 posted on 01/17/2012 10:26:05 PM PST by lastchance ("Nisi credideritis, non intelligetis" St. Augustine)
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To: narses
Certain sources are not allowed on the Religion Forum for hate mongering, e.g. anti-Semitic sources, Chick publications, jesus-is-lord.com, Aryan Nations, National Alliance, etc.

But what constitutes "hate mongering" is up to moderators. We know it when we see it.

As to the rest, when one belief spawns from another it is not unusual for both to condemn the other in the harshest terms possible, e.g. anathema, heresy, apostate, cult, Satanic. Such terms and beliefs often become part of the official documents of the religion. The contempt cuts both ways and is aired only in "open" RF debate.

194 posted on 01/17/2012 10:27:21 PM PST by Religion Moderator
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To: lastchance

You attributed motive which I explained was the reason for my warning in my original post 117.


195 posted on 01/17/2012 10:29:35 PM PST by Religion Moderator
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To: Religion Moderator

So you DO arbitrate. Selectively. Some lies are allowed, some are not.

“We know it when we see it.”

Except when you don’t. Obvious and clear lies like the Catholic Church teaches that only priests can read the Bible are allowed. But you do not see that as a lie designed to create a flame war.


196 posted on 01/17/2012 10:32:31 PM PST by narses
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To: narses

If what you said were true then much of the New Testament could not be discussed on the Religion Forum since some Jews might complain that certain claims by or about Jesus are “slanderous lies about Jewish beliefs.”


197 posted on 01/17/2012 10:33:52 PM PST by Religion Moderator
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To: narses

We moderate the forum - we do not arbitrate truth or fact.


198 posted on 01/17/2012 10:36:13 PM PST by Religion Moderator
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To: Religion Moderator

So if somebody writes “Blasphemy” in regards to a certain teaching, I can not write they disagree with that teaching and I can not write they believe it is blasphemy.

Simply writing back what they wrote in a way to clarify their opinion, (I thought their writing it was blasphemy meant they disagreed with it, but evidently I was wrong) is now attributing motive. O.k.

“The Catholic doctrine of the Immaculate Conception is blasphemy.”

“You dispute the doctrine because you believe it is blasphemy.”

Not allowed.

“Catholics worship Mr. Ed.”

“You believe Catholics worship Mr. Ed.”

Allowed.

Dr. W eats babies and has sexual relationships with pond algae. Personal not allowed, incitement to flame war.

Unmarried members of the OPC eat babies and have sexual relations with pond algae. Allowed, simply another alternate set of facts.

The first set of rules are frustrating but the total freedom to post outright falsehoods without fear of reprisal or correction more than makes up for it.


199 posted on 01/17/2012 10:51:51 PM PST by lastchance ("Nisi credideritis, non intelligetis" St. Augustine)
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To: lastchance
Unmarried members of the OPC eat babies and have sexual relations with pond algae. Allowed, simply another alternate set of facts.
OK, an interesting new approach. They have their "facts", I can have mine.
200 posted on 01/17/2012 10:55:18 PM PST by narses
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