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1 posted on 01/07/2012 6:00:23 PM PST by rzman21
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Of late I have been reminded of how many Catholics reject central tenants of the denomination, yet still consider themselves Catholics. At what point might the term CINO apply?


125 posted on 01/08/2012 1:56:55 PM PST by ctdonath2 ($1 meals: http://abuckaplate.blogspot.com/)
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To: rzman21; 1000 silverlings; Alex Murphy; bkaycee; blue-duncan; boatbums; caww; count-your-change; ...

You know, I doubt anyone is really interested in reading that long, pot-stirring spam.


141 posted on 01/08/2012 8:20:16 PM PST by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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You have high expectations if you think this “book” is going to be read here by many, and i have another thread(s) to attend to, and not going to get into refuting what i think is amounts to the typical polemic here, suffice to say that,

Catholics make a fallible decision to trust in Rome

And engage in fallible interpretation of Rome

And cannot be sure about multitudes of potentially infallible decrees.

And must give assent of faith on relative few teachings, while most of what they believe is not infallible, and can allow some disagreement.

Thus they have a purportedly infallible supreme authority, the sacred magisterium, which effectively only rules her own church, but the hearers t make fallible judgments as to its meaning, as well as on other teachings, and on the Bible in which they can and do differ.

Evangelicals (those who in practice basically hold to SS or the supremacy of Scripture after the historical “tradition”) have an infallible authority, the Scripture, which they interpret, if not assuredly infallibly.

And while lacking a centralized authority, they uphold the local magisterium, but as subject to Scripture as supreme.

They (denominationally) overall hold to common core truths (apostle’s creed, etc.), while largely allowing limited variation in other matters, yet overall manifest a remarkable informal spiritual unity, manifest in manifold ways. And testify to greater commitment and unity in moral views and certain core teachings than their Catholic counterparts.

And they overall manifest a common opposition to groups which deviate from their core essentials, as well as traditions of Rome, and which deviation of the former is linked to the sola ecclesia position they share with the latter.

Yet on the more negative are multitudes who in practice deviate from the historical understanding of SS, and misuse or ignore Scripture, speaking perverse things.

More can be said as regards the strengths and weakness, and reliances, but i cannot do so now.


170 posted on 01/09/2012 7:24:05 PM PST by daniel1212 (Our sinful deeds condemn us, but Christ's death and resurrection gains salvation. Repent +Believe)
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Mr Rzman21-Everything you post is divisive. If you posted things that were edification among Christians then once in awhile these posts that would be allright in my eyes. But every single thread you start goes haywire with division among christians. You should just chill out. As for me I will not continue. Once in awhile maybe. But God shows me I do not have to have the last word. Or to be what I think is so right in my own view. We all can be so wrong by trying to be so right. So I will be leaving this thread.

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Do what you want. I suggest chill out.

Why not show a devotional once in awhile.

Freeper Cheers!

185 posted on 01/10/2012 5:13:03 PM PST by johngrace (I am a 1 John 4! Christian- declared at every Sunday Mass ,Divine Mercy and Rosary prayers!)
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To: All; rzman21
Look down, O Lord, in Thy mercy,

upon those who bow before Thy majesty;

that they who are refreshed by Thy divine gift may ever be sustained by heavenly aid,

through our Lord Jesus Christ,

Who livest and reignest,

with You Almighty Father,

in the unity of the Holy Spirit, one God; for ever and ever.

Amen.

187 posted on 01/10/2012 5:29:49 PM PST by johngrace (I am a 1 John 4! Christian- declared at every Sunday Mass ,Divine Mercy and Rosary prayers!)
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